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A lot of people are under the assumption that H1-B workers are all about saving on salary costs when this is actually not the full picture and actually leads to
by president 6y ago
A lot of people are under the assumption that H1-B workers are all about saving on salary costs when this is actually not the full picture and actually leads to misguided arguments in the media and discussions that I have observed. As someone who has worked with many many H1-B workers in the past decade, I can tell you that H1-B workers are hired not because they are "low cost" but because they are willing to put in long hours and are very agreeable to tough working conditions. They are generally agreeable to managers and will not typically complain about or call out ethical/legal concerns when they arise. On top of all of this, companies understand that they can mistreat H1-B workers as much as they want because most of them cannot switch jobs for years due to their visa situation. Simply put, H1-B workers are highly sought after because they have little effective working rights compared to American workers. And after decades of H1-B reliance, companies have been able to transform the American working culture by making this the norm. Even American workers must now adhere to these types of working conditions as in many top companies, H1-B workers make up the majority of the workers.
- m0zg 6y agoYes and no. You get to hire PhDs and senior developers into entry level positions, with entry level pay, and then keep them there until they get a green card and show you the middle finger. Glorified indentured servitude. And I say this as a former H1-B myself (sponsored by Microsoft). Once I got a green card (which, BTW, took 7 years), my career took off like a rocket. Elsewhere.
- sg47 6y agoExactly this. It really is glorified indentured servitude.
- mav3rick 6y agoIt is not in many cases. FAANGs pay similar or more to H1Bs. Maybe the local workers should work harder rather hide behind competition.
- m0zg 6y agoThey pay similar _at the levels where they are hired_. That's what the letter of law requires. They just hire them at lower levels to pay less. And where they _really_ want to save costs, they hire the typical Indian sweatshops which are full of H1Bs who are overworked and paid peanuts. That's why the overall number of people working at e.g. Microsoft or Google can be nearly double their FTE count.
- mav3rick 6y agoMany grads graduate from top tier universities and get the same level as their American counterparts. Please have some respect for the law abiding students, who pay full tuition and taxes only to get shit on on this forum and by the President and his phonies.
- sg47 6y agoSorry, that's just not correct. Microsoft or Google does not intentionally try to hire people at lower levels based on their immigration status. They do outsource some IT work to companies like Infosys or TCS which are Indian sweatshops but not their FTEs.
- mav3rick 6y agoClearly a biased and uneducated take.
- sjg007 6y agoHonestly it takes an American 7 years for a career to take off.
- amznthrowaway5 6y agoThe H1Bs still help to limit cost, on top of all the other toxic reasons.
- foogazi 6y ago> As someone who has worked with many many H1-B workers in the past decade, I can tell you that H1-B workers are hired not because they are "low cost" but because they are willing to put in long hours and are very agreeable to tough working conditions. Pointing out the obvious here: Long hours = low cost
- j4yav 6y agoAll of these things reduce costs for the company, no?