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More transparent, low contrast menus, and not much colour to help you navigate. I must be getting old. What accessibility features do one use to make the UI cle

More transparent, low contrast menus, and not much colour to help you navigate. I must be getting old. What accessibility features do one use to make the UI clearer without becoming butt-ugly to look at?

Synaesthesia 6y ago
I’m sure the usual reduce transparency and increase contrast options will still be there.
- jtbayly 6y ago
  Yes, but color is such a helpful distinguishing feature that contrast can never make up for it disappearing. I can squint until I can’t distinguish any of the symbols and still tell which is which when they are colored.
  - avree 6y ago
    Which menus generally have color as an element in Mac OS today that don't in the new Mac OS? Serious question—I can't find one.
    - justwalt 6y ago
      Looks like the mail preferences window is one such example, as seen in the before/after in the middle of the page.
    - wpm 6y ago
      https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guidelines/macos/overview/whats-new-in-macos/ https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guideline... Command/Ctrl + F for: "align different subsets of toolbar items" The pictures above the paragraph that phrase appears in exemplify the problem perfectly. One certainly looks nicer, being all uniform and monochrome, but the other provides visual feedback that is far quicker to parse than text or hieroglyphics. I have to explain to my 70 year old aunt why I won't be updating her Macbook to Big Sur, because she'll never be able to cope with this change. Yeah, she's 70 and not that great at all this, but that's exactly who this interface should be for. We can bitch and moan but we'll deal, because we have to. At 70 years old you just want your fucking email to work and you want to know what buttons to click on. Apple decided to add depth to the glyphs on the Dock, but no where else apparently. I'm so fucking tired of this flat monochrome bullshit.
      - fnordsensei 6y ago
        The state of accessibility (as a design goal; as, finding the point where it critically improves the situation for some, yet is beneficial for everyone) in tech is generally awful. It's sad that this doesn't look like it's a priority to Apple. My only hope is that I'm wrong, that the affordances are actually more than OK once you use it, and that they've done loads of usage testing and found that it works better for the majority of people, as well as those with greater needs.

Synaesthesia 6y ago

I’m sure the usual reduce transparency and increase contrast options will still be there.

jtbayly 6y ago
Yes, but color is such a helpful distinguishing feature that contrast can never make up for it disappearing. I can squint until I can’t distinguish any of the symbols and still tell which is which when they are colored.
- avree 6y ago
  Which menus generally have color as an element in Mac OS today that don't in the new Mac OS? Serious question—I can't find one.
  - justwalt 6y ago
    Looks like the mail preferences window is one such example, as seen in the before/after in the middle of the page.
  - wpm 6y ago
    https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guidelines/macos/overview/whats-new-in-macos/ https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guideline... Command/Ctrl + F for: "align different subsets of toolbar items" The pictures above the paragraph that phrase appears in exemplify the problem perfectly. One certainly looks nicer, being all uniform and monochrome, but the other provides visual feedback that is far quicker to parse than text or hieroglyphics. I have to explain to my 70 year old aunt why I won't be updating her Macbook to Big Sur, because she'll never be able to cope with this change. Yeah, she's 70 and not that great at all this, but that's exactly who this interface should be for. We can bitch and moan but we'll deal, because we have to. At 70 years old you just want your fucking email to work and you want to know what buttons to click on. Apple decided to add depth to the glyphs on the Dock, but no where else apparently. I'm so fucking tired of this flat monochrome bullshit.
    - fnordsensei 6y ago
      The state of accessibility (as a design goal; as, finding the point where it critically improves the situation for some, yet is beneficial for everyone) in tech is generally awful. It's sad that this doesn't look like it's a priority to Apple. My only hope is that I'm wrong, that the affordances are actually more than OK once you use it, and that they've done loads of usage testing and found that it works better for the majority of people, as well as those with greater needs.