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Never underestimate the Internet's ability to see the worse in any Apple announcement. Apple announces something you don't want? They are ignoring the vital is

Never underestimate the Internet's ability to see the worse in any Apple announcement. Apple announces something you don't want? They are ignoring the vital issues and focusing only on dumb superficial things which just proves they are going down hill. Apple announces something you do want? Should have happened years ago, and the fact that they've only gotten to it now just proves they are going down hill.

wespiser_2018 6y ago
Apple unfairly gets a lot of hate, but please don't discount that the developer experience on MacOS has been pretty bad lately, and the lack of enterprise support means some folks are stuck on Apples slightly out of their use case, and with their fair share of problems.
- auggierose 6y ago
  I don't know, just Catalyst and Swift/UI alone are making my life as a developer much easier and nicer.
- movedx 6y ago
  > ... the developer experience on MacOS has been pretty bad lately ... Has it, though? I've never understood how people had a bad time on macOS when it came to development. I'm developing Python, Go, Terraform, Ansible, and more, on macOS just fine. I've used Vim, gVim, VSCode, GoLand, and more without any issues. iTerm2 helps too. What issues are you facing?
the-pigeon 6y ago
I think you misunderstand. Changes for changes sake are negative for users. The last thing you want to do is change something that was working for users without giving them anything for it. However a lot of actively developed software today changes because they want it to be "fresh and exciting". Basically because of desire to use changes to market it. But changing anything for that reason hurts usability. Any change means the user will have to adapt to that change. You want to minimize the user having to adapt to anything. When you do make them adapt you need to give them clear value for that adapting.
reaperducer 6y ago
Should have happened years ago, and the fact that they've only gotten to it now just proves they are going down hill. As they say, "Apple: Going out of business since 1984."

wespiser_2018 6y ago

Apple unfairly gets a lot of hate, but please don't discount that the developer experience on MacOS has been pretty bad lately, and the lack of enterprise support means some folks are stuck on Apples slightly out of their use case, and with their fair share of problems.

auggierose 6y ago
I don't know, just Catalyst and Swift/UI alone are making my life as a developer much easier and nicer.
movedx 6y ago
> ... the developer experience on MacOS has been pretty bad lately ... Has it, though? I've never understood how people had a bad time on macOS when it came to development. I'm developing Python, Go, Terraform, Ansible, and more, on macOS just fine. I've used Vim, gVim, VSCode, GoLand, and more without any issues. iTerm2 helps too. What issues are you facing?

the-pigeon 6y ago

I think you misunderstand. Changes for changes sake are negative for users. The last thing you want to do is change something that was working for users without giving them anything for it. However a lot of actively developed software today changes because they want it to be "fresh and exciting". Basically because of desire to use changes to market it. But changing anything for that reason hurts usability. Any change means the user will have to adapt to that change. You want to minimize the user having to adapt to anything. When you do make them adapt you need to give them clear value for that adapting.

reaperducer 6y ago

Should have happened years ago, and the fact that they've only gotten to it now just proves they are going down hill. As they say, "Apple: Going out of business since 1984."