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OK, so should I sell all my macOS hardware (except Hackintoshes) now? Is this exclusive or half-baked like MS Surface ARM, i.e. some running on Intel, some on A

by bitL 6y ago

OK, so should I sell all my macOS hardware (except Hackintoshes) now? Is this exclusive or half-baked like MS Surface ARM, i.e. some running on Intel, some on ARM? If it is half-baked, what's the point of fragmenting macOS and apps it can run? What's the best non-Apple notebook these days?

macintux 6y ago
Apple always goes all-in on something like this, so while they'll continue to make Intel Macs for a while, and support them for (my wild guess) 5 years, they're definitely going 100% to ARM. Every other major hardware company plays it safe by supporting as much of their user base as they possibly can with a wide variety of configurations. Apple doesn't.
henriquez 6y ago
> What's the best non-Apple notebook these days? That's pretty subjective depending on operating system and use case. If you want Linux, Dell makes some really good options (XPS Developer Edition), System76 and Purism make some nice hardware for libre software purists. For Windows laptops there are tons of options and it all boils down to thermal performance and power versus weight and expense. No notebook will defy the laws of physics so there are trade-offs, especially when you start wanting to play games, which I have generally found just isn't worth the trouble on a laptop. Dell's XPS and Lenovo's Thinkpad lines are solid in terms of providing options that fit a lot of different use cases. I've found that the new Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 environment is great for a lot of the command line Linuxy stuff I took for granted in MacOS. Apple's hardware used to be my default option for computing on the go while I would use native Linux on my desktop, because so much of my development stuff requires some flavor of Linux compatibility. Now, with WSL2, Windows works perfectly for what I need. Microsoft's Linux support is so good that I would not buy another Apple laptop if I were in the market now (it feels really weird typing that) - there is just nothing justifying Apple's premium price anymore, for the type of work I do (YMMV). The thing that's different about buying non-Apple computing hardware is that you have many more options. Apple takes kind of a dictatorial role in giving you one option at any given screen size or price point. Want a GPU? Buy a 16" Macbook Pro. Want a desktop class CPU? Buy an iMac (or spend $10k+ on a reasonably spec'ed Mac Pro). People put up with this in large part because of Apple's marketing. MacOS Catalina was a disaster but at this point a lot of people have low grade Stockholm syndrome. The relationship is totally different on the PC side where you can practically find anything to match whatever particular use case you have; there are a lot more options, and you have a more active role in figuring that out and purchasing what works for you.

by bitL 6y ago

macintux 6y ago

Apple always goes all-in on something like this, so while they'll continue to make Intel Macs for a while, and support them for (my wild guess) 5 years, they're definitely going 100% to ARM. Every other major hardware company plays it safe by supporting as much of their user base as they possibly can with a wide variety of configurations. Apple doesn't.

henriquez 6y ago

> What's the best non-Apple notebook these days? That's pretty subjective depending on operating system and use case. If you want Linux, Dell makes some really good options (XPS Developer Edition), System76 and Purism make some nice hardware for libre software purists. For Windows laptops there are tons of options and it all boils down to thermal performance and power versus weight and expense. No notebook will defy the laws of physics so there are trade-offs, especially when you start wanting to play games, which I have generally found just isn't worth the trouble on a laptop. Dell's XPS and Lenovo's Thinkpad lines are solid in terms of providing options that fit a lot of different use cases. I've found that the new Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 environment is great for a lot of the command line Linuxy stuff I took for granted in MacOS. Apple's hardware used to be my default option for computing on the go while I would use native Linux on my desktop, because so much of my development stuff requires some flavor of Linux compatibility. Now, with WSL2, Windows works perfectly for what I need. Microsoft's Linux support is so good that I would not buy another Apple laptop if I were in the market now (it feels really weird typing that) - there is just nothing justifying Apple's premium price anymore, for the type of work I do (YMMV). The thing that's different about buying non-Apple computing hardware is that you have many more options. Apple takes kind of a dictatorial role in giving you one option at any given screen size or price point. Want a GPU? Buy a 16" Macbook Pro. Want a desktop class CPU? Buy an iMac (or spend $10k+ on a reasonably spec'ed Mac Pro). People put up with this in large part because of Apple's marketing. MacOS Catalina was a disaster but at this point a lot of people have low grade Stockholm syndrome. The relationship is totally different on the PC side where you can practically find anything to match whatever particular use case you have; there are a lot more options, and you have a more active role in figuring that out and purchasing what works for you.