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What is really sad is that I don't think the majority of Apple consumers really understand what this means for the Intel macs in the long run. I fear a number

by kemiller2002 6y ago

What is really sad is that I don't think the majority of Apple consumers really understand what this means for the Intel macs in the long run. I fear a number of people will buy them not realizing they have a very limited lifespan.

inapis 6y ago
If those devices will have 4-5 years worth of use, then I think most people would be fine with the purchase. 4-5 years already does require upgrading for either performance or quality of life features.
- gerardnll 6y ago
  Yes, I think they will support them for at least 5 years.
- adwww 6y ago
  Your comment made me look how old my current laptop is. "Mid-2014". It's still as powerful as any of the current Apple laptops - progress has been slow these last 6 years.
  - unsignedchar 6y ago
    Part of the motivation for the transition is the hope that the progress will be much faster over the next 6. If that happens, those intel macs may age out sooner.
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foldr 6y ago
They won't, necessarily. Fat binaries worked ok the last time around. Sure, Apple could stop making updates available for Intel Macs, but they can stop making updates available for any older model of Mac if they want to.
valuearb 6y ago
Their lifespans will be no different than any other Apple hardware, which typically has very long usable lifespans.
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throw0101a 6y ago
> […] not realizing they have a very limited lifespan. It may depend on one's definition of "limited": the Rosetta was first released with Mac OS 10.4 in 2005, [1][2] and was last available in Mac OS 10.6, which first released in 2010, [3] but whose last update was in 2011. Six years of transitional support is not unreasonable. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_(software) [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Tiger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Tiger [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Snow_Leopard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Snow_Leopard
- tinus_hn 6y ago
  Rosetta is for the other case where you want to run old software on a new machine. This is about running new software on an old machine.
  - throw0101a 6y ago
    > This is about running new software on an old machine. New software will be cross-compiled with both instruction sets: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_binary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_binary
    - tinus_hn 6y ago
      Great until there is no more OS support for computers running your computers instruction set. Rosetta does not help with that.
- fomine3 6y ago
  Nowadays we can use a same computer for around 8 years easily if we bought with decent spec.

inapis 6y ago

If those devices will have 4-5 years worth of use, then I think most people would be fine with the purchase. 4-5 years already does require upgrading for either performance or quality of life features.

gerardnll 6y ago
Yes, I think they will support them for at least 5 years.
adwww 6y ago
Your comment made me look how old my current laptop is. "Mid-2014". It's still as powerful as any of the current Apple laptops - progress has been slow these last 6 years.
- unsignedchar 6y ago
  Part of the motivation for the transition is the hope that the progress will be much faster over the next 6. If that happens, those intel macs may age out sooner.
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foldr 6y ago

They won't, necessarily. Fat binaries worked ok the last time around. Sure, Apple could stop making updates available for Intel Macs, but they can stop making updates available for any older model of Mac if they want to.

valuearb 6y ago

Their lifespans will be no different than any other Apple hardware, which typically has very long usable lifespans.

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throw0101a 6y ago

> […] not realizing they have a very limited lifespan. It may depend on one's definition of "limited": the Rosetta was first released with Mac OS 10.4 in 2005, [1][2] and was last available in Mac OS 10.6, which first released in 2010, [3] but whose last update was in 2011. Six years of transitional support is not unreasonable. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_(software) [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Tiger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Tiger [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Snow_Leopard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Snow_Leopard

tinus_hn 6y ago
Rosetta is for the other case where you want to run old software on a new machine. This is about running new software on an old machine.
- throw0101a 6y ago
  > This is about running new software on an old machine. New software will be cross-compiled with both instruction sets: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_binary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_binary
  - tinus_hn 6y ago
    Great until there is no more OS support for computers running your computers instruction set. Rosetta does not help with that.
fomine3 6y ago
Nowadays we can use a same computer for around 8 years easily if we bought with decent spec.