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Virtualization also running now. Great for us Linux users! And "iPad apps run on it directly!" - from Craig himself Transition kit = mac mini running A12Z pr

by MR4D 6y ago

Virtualization also running now. Great for us Linux users! And "iPad apps run on it directly!" - from Craig himself Transition kit = mac mini running A12Z processor. Shipping today! - no word on cost...

dhosek 6y ago
A comment that I may regret in a few minutes, but it seems to me that running iOS apps directly on new Macs implies touch screen.
- MR4D 6y ago
  If you remember that they had cursor support in the latest iPad , my guess is that the cursor support enables it instead of a touchscreen.
- penagwin 6y ago
  Woah I think you're right. Sure some apps might work without a touchscreen but that kinda defeats the point? Unless this feature is just to help on board new apps to macs that were previously only for ios but don't require a touch screen, but that seems like it would be rather niche? I bet they're actually pivoting towards a product that's "ipad pro + desktop apps" and then they'll try to phase out their "computers" that currently feel like an after thought.
  - MR4D 6y ago
    I think iPad mouse support is a better bet: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211008 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211008
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- threeseed 6y ago
  iOS apps are built using a Mac and a mouse. I highly doubt Apple would have a touch screen anytime soon.
- kohtatsu 6y ago
  It's just a neat way of porting iOS code to native mac apps, to expedite development. It isn't an iOS emulator or anything cheap like that.
jayd16 6y ago
Was that implying x86 vms or was that an arm64 linux build?
- MR4D 6y ago
  Not yet sure. Andreas Wendker demoed Parallels running Debian Linux 10, (and there was also a screenshot of Debian 9), He went to the linux command line to run apache. He also mentioned Docker when listing developer tools.
  - lsllc 6y ago
    Possibly they're using QEMU to run Intel code?
  - MR4D 6y ago
    Just saw now in the Platforms State of the Union that it's ARM Debian, not x86.
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deepaksurti 6y ago
$500 And must be returned at the end of the program From press release [1] >> The DTK, which must be returned to Apple at the end of the program ... Developers can apply to the program at developer.apple.com, and the total cost of the program is $500. [1] https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-t.. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-t....
- Closi 6y ago
  Last time they had a similar program they gave everyone a free final production MacBook in exchange for returning the dev kit - the same thing is likely to happen here.
  - MR4D 6y ago
    Hmm... MacBook plus an early look for $500. That would be a great deal!
- bonchicbongenre 6y ago
  Thanks for the info. That link is broken for me though — is it up for anyone else?
  - ProZsolt 6y ago
    This is the right link: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-transition-to-apple-silicon/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-t...
saagarjha 6y ago
No virtualization for the DTK, apparently.

by MR4D 6y ago

dhosek 6y ago

A comment that I may regret in a few minutes, but it seems to me that running iOS apps directly on new Macs implies touch screen.

MR4D 6y ago
If you remember that they had cursor support in the latest iPad , my guess is that the cursor support enables it instead of a touchscreen.
penagwin 6y ago
Woah I think you're right. Sure some apps might work without a touchscreen but that kinda defeats the point? Unless this feature is just to help on board new apps to macs that were previously only for ios but don't require a touch screen, but that seems like it would be rather niche? I bet they're actually pivoting towards a product that's "ipad pro + desktop apps" and then they'll try to phase out their "computers" that currently feel like an after thought.
- MR4D 6y ago
  I think iPad mouse support is a better bet: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211008 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211008
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threeseed 6y ago
iOS apps are built using a Mac and a mouse. I highly doubt Apple would have a touch screen anytime soon.
kohtatsu 6y ago
It's just a neat way of porting iOS code to native mac apps, to expedite development. It isn't an iOS emulator or anything cheap like that.

jayd16 6y ago

Was that implying x86 vms or was that an arm64 linux build?

MR4D 6y ago
Not yet sure. Andreas Wendker demoed Parallels running Debian Linux 10, (and there was also a screenshot of Debian 9), He went to the linux command line to run apache. He also mentioned Docker when listing developer tools.
- lsllc 6y ago
  Possibly they're using QEMU to run Intel code?
- MR4D 6y ago
  Just saw now in the Platforms State of the Union that it's ARM Debian, not x86.

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deepaksurti 6y ago

$500 And must be returned at the end of the program From press release [1] >> The DTK, which must be returned to Apple at the end of the program ... Developers can apply to the program at developer.apple.com, and the total cost of the program is $500. [1] https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-t.. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-t....

Closi 6y ago
Last time they had a similar program they gave everyone a free final production MacBook in exchange for returning the dev kit - the same thing is likely to happen here.
- MR4D 6y ago
  Hmm... MacBook plus an early look for $500. That would be a great deal!
bonchicbongenre 6y ago
Thanks for the info. That link is broken for me though — is it up for anyone else?
- ProZsolt 6y ago
  This is the right link: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-transition-to-apple-silicon/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-t...

saagarjha 6y ago

No virtualization for the DTK, apparently.