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Are App Clips Apples “answer” to PWAs? Semi-installed Apps with more privileges than a website, requiring the usual iOS dev workflow with a paid plan of course

by ffritz 6y ago

Are App Clips Apples “answer” to PWAs? Semi-installed Apps with more privileges than a website, requiring the usual iOS dev workflow with a paid plan of course (seems like App Clips are part of a regular App, so you have to write a regular app anyway). Oh and it supports Apple Pay and Login. I’m convinced that this is another sign that PWAs are never going to be really capable on iOS.

jamil7 6y ago
It's an answer to one of PWA's advantages, the install friction. It's also a feature thats existed on Android for a while, although I don't see much uptake.
- jayd16 6y ago
  Hopefully now that there's feature parity we'll see some increased support across all platforms.
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coffeeri 6y ago
I'd say it's the answer to Google play Instant. https://developer.android.com/topic/google-play-instant https://developer.android.com/topic/google-play-instant
- charwalker 6y ago
  This is used so rarely, in my experience, that it's jarring on first use but overall a good experience. Usually I find the web interface fine or good enough for how often I use it and move on. Once I liked the Instant version so well I got the actual app. For things I do regularly and can be 100% via web, it is nice to see a better implementation via an app and install it.
- sgt 6y ago
  I wouldn't say it's the answer - it's a different take, and I suspect it will be executed really well. The UI looks intuitive. App Clips will potentially be revolutionary in terms of app adoption. It's hard enough to get people to install your apps. Now if you have a real life item pushing you in that direction, offering you a light weight app to start off with, it's SO much easier. I'm super excited about App Clips.
  - pradn 6y ago
    It seems like a way to let people not install an app. If there's always an app clip available, why bother installing? Many apps don't need to keep the audience engaged all that time - that's what apps are good at - with annoying notifications and all. If you are a parking meter provider, you don't care about that. You just want people to be able to pay you quickly.
- paraditedc 6y ago
  Actually might be closer to the The Google Pay Spot Platform instead, which supports PWA: https://developers.google.com/pay/spot https://developers.google.com/pay/spot https://youtu.be/-YAy4M8ZiR8 https://youtu.be/-YAy4M8ZiR8
rimliu 6y ago
PWAs are never going to be really capable anywhere.
paraditedc 6y ago
What's stopping me from putting a PWA in a webview and call it a app clip? Is that possible? From the app clip docs it seems like they didn't prohibit that.
whytaka 6y ago
Of all the things presented, I'm most excited by App Clips. Between Sign-In with Apple, Apple Pay, and this, I think it's going to take real world digital commerce to another level.

by ffritz 6y ago

jamil7 6y ago

It's an answer to one of PWA's advantages, the install friction. It's also a feature thats existed on Android for a while, although I don't see much uptake.

jayd16 6y ago
Hopefully now that there's feature parity we'll see some increased support across all platforms.

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coffeeri 6y ago

I'd say it's the answer to Google play Instant. https://developer.android.com/topic/google-play-instant https://developer.android.com/topic/google-play-instant

charwalker 6y ago
This is used so rarely, in my experience, that it's jarring on first use but overall a good experience. Usually I find the web interface fine or good enough for how often I use it and move on. Once I liked the Instant version so well I got the actual app. For things I do regularly and can be 100% via web, it is nice to see a better implementation via an app and install it.
sgt 6y ago
I wouldn't say it's the answer - it's a different take, and I suspect it will be executed really well. The UI looks intuitive. App Clips will potentially be revolutionary in terms of app adoption. It's hard enough to get people to install your apps. Now if you have a real life item pushing you in that direction, offering you a light weight app to start off with, it's SO much easier. I'm super excited about App Clips.
- pradn 6y ago
  It seems like a way to let people not install an app. If there's always an app clip available, why bother installing? Many apps don't need to keep the audience engaged all that time - that's what apps are good at - with annoying notifications and all. If you are a parking meter provider, you don't care about that. You just want people to be able to pay you quickly.
paraditedc 6y ago
Actually might be closer to the The Google Pay Spot Platform instead, which supports PWA: https://developers.google.com/pay/spot https://developers.google.com/pay/spot https://youtu.be/-YAy4M8ZiR8 https://youtu.be/-YAy4M8ZiR8

rimliu 6y ago

PWAs are never going to be really capable anywhere.

paraditedc 6y ago

What's stopping me from putting a PWA in a webview and call it a app clip? Is that possible? From the app clip docs it seems like they didn't prohibit that.

whytaka 6y ago

Of all the things presented, I'm most excited by App Clips. Between Sign-In with Apple, Apple Pay, and this, I think it's going to take real world digital commerce to another level.