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Everything you have mentioned is true, but it misses the point. India needs to go through a period of "communism" to get anywhere, the type of land reform need

Everything you have mentioned is true, but it misses the point. India needs to go through a period of "communism" to get anywhere, the type of land reform needed to reduce poverty won't happen without somebody brutal enough to go against the interests of the wealthy in India. India is still mostly a feudal society, that was thrust into the 20th Century from the 16th Century. It was robbed of 4 centuries of social change. > infighting between secular and religious figures and who do you think instigated it ? how was India able to have different religions living side to side without communal violence until the Brits showed up ? India could fix it's issues with it's neighbors by being more empathic as a regional hegemon, CCP understands this. It's more likely that the Indian Communist Party comes into power before 2030, and all of Eurasia switches side and forms a cartel against the G7.

ra7 6y ago
> It's more likely that the Indian Communist Party comes into power before 2030 The Communist parties of India (CPI and CPM) currently have 5 seats out of 543 in the 2019 national elections, down from 10 in 2014, 19 in 2009 and 53 in 2004. Do you spot a trend? And you think they are going to be in power in 10 years? You are way, way off the mark and you have little to no understanding of Indian politics.
teatree 6y ago
Are you serious ? India traded with Muslim nations far before the Brits showed up. British East India Company had to fight Muslim and Hindu rulers in India,by pitting them against each other, to establish their hold. There are documents of Indian saints living under rule of Muslim kings and vice versa. Please read more about Colonialism and Indian history.
- fmajid 6y ago
  Even Aurangzeb endowed Hindu temples, contrary to popular perception encouraged by British propaganda for purposes of divide-and-rule.
sbmthakur 6y ago
We don't need go through communism (which caused massive famines) to irradiate poverty. Social reforms combined with capitalism has been working nicely for us. https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/economy/india-lifted-271-million-people-out-of-poverty-in-10-years-un/article28403303.ece https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/economy/india-lifted-27...
SJetKaran 6y ago
Any comparison of India with China generally leads to this sort of conclusions. If India and China were students in a class, China would be the topper of the class. India is a good student, just not a topper. India has been making great progress on most fronts, just not as big leaps as China did.
- polotics 6y ago
  Well yeah sure, except China is the student that's cheating by faking their grade results. But seriously, how can you call a country's rulers that were so stupid as to implement the one child policy, inclusive of forced abortions, ""winning"" ???
  - SJetKaran 6y ago
    I was actually arguing for India by the point I made - as in, India when compared to China comes out to be a super under-developed country that people consider India to be a basket case; which it is not.
    - 0x8BADF00D 6y ago
      It was an economic basket case, however. That’s why so many Indians left during the socialistic policies of Indira Gandhi. It was due to socialism that India regressed and fell behind China. Had India adopted state capitalism earlier, as it has now, it would have grown at a much faster rate.
      - SJetKaran 6y ago
        > It was an economic basket case, however. true > That’s why so many Indians left during the socialistic policies of Indira Gandhi. don't know, i think more people leave India now than ever, but that is not necessarily a bad thing (in net). > It was due to socialism that India regressed and fell behind China. Questionable, even at the height of cultural revolution in China, India was growing slower than China. Perhaps India had more societal issues that it needs to solve, perhaps China has inherent advantages, in either case, this sort of question is for the historians to discuss. > Had India adopted state capitalism earlier, as it has now, it would have grown at a much faster rate. true

ra7 6y ago

> It's more likely that the Indian Communist Party comes into power before 2030 The Communist parties of India (CPI and CPM) currently have 5 seats out of 543 in the 2019 national elections, down from 10 in 2014, 19 in 2009 and 53 in 2004. Do you spot a trend? And you think they are going to be in power in 10 years? You are way, way off the mark and you have little to no understanding of Indian politics.

teatree 6y ago

Are you serious ? India traded with Muslim nations far before the Brits showed up. British East India Company had to fight Muslim and Hindu rulers in India,by pitting them against each other, to establish their hold. There are documents of Indian saints living under rule of Muslim kings and vice versa. Please read more about Colonialism and Indian history.

fmajid 6y ago
Even Aurangzeb endowed Hindu temples, contrary to popular perception encouraged by British propaganda for purposes of divide-and-rule.

sbmthakur 6y ago

We don't need go through communism (which caused massive famines) to irradiate poverty. Social reforms combined with capitalism has been working nicely for us. https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/economy/india-lifted-271-million-people-out-of-poverty-in-10-years-un/article28403303.ece https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/economy/india-lifted-27...

SJetKaran 6y ago

Any comparison of India with China generally leads to this sort of conclusions. If India and China were students in a class, China would be the topper of the class. India is a good student, just not a topper. India has been making great progress on most fronts, just not as big leaps as China did.

polotics 6y ago
Well yeah sure, except China is the student that's cheating by faking their grade results. But seriously, how can you call a country's rulers that were so stupid as to implement the one child policy, inclusive of forced abortions, ""winning"" ???
- SJetKaran 6y ago
  I was actually arguing for India by the point I made - as in, India when compared to China comes out to be a super under-developed country that people consider India to be a basket case; which it is not.
  - 0x8BADF00D 6y ago
    It was an economic basket case, however. That’s why so many Indians left during the socialistic policies of Indira Gandhi. It was due to socialism that India regressed and fell behind China. Had India adopted state capitalism earlier, as it has now, it would have grown at a much faster rate.
    - SJetKaran 6y ago
      > It was an economic basket case, however. true > That’s why so many Indians left during the socialistic policies of Indira Gandhi. don't know, i think more people leave India now than ever, but that is not necessarily a bad thing (in net). > It was due to socialism that India regressed and fell behind China. Questionable, even at the height of cultural revolution in China, India was growing slower than China. Perhaps India had more societal issues that it needs to solve, perhaps China has inherent advantages, in either case, this sort of question is for the historians to discuss. > Had India adopted state capitalism earlier, as it has now, it would have grown at a much faster rate. true