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Is this a meme? Have you actually spent time in India? Caste based discrimination is illegal, so the country isn't "enforcing" any of it. In fact, there are sev

by ra7 6y ago

Is this a meme? Have you actually spent time in India? Caste based discrimination is illegal, so the country isn't "enforcing" any of it. In fact, there are several measures to counteract discrimination (like reservations, which is a whole other topic). This just seems like a poor, uneducated opinion for the likes of HN.

vijaybritto 6y ago
Woah dude. This is so funny. A low caste guy was shot dead last week for entering a temple. https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/17-year-old-dalit-boy-shot-dead-in-up-by-4-upper-caste-youths-over-temple-entry-97252 https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/17-year-old-dalit-b... A man was made to drink urine for loving a girl from upper caste. https://www.thelede.in/governance/2020/05/22/in-caste-crime-dalit-boy-beaten-forced-to-drink-urine https://www.thelede.in/governance/2020/05/22/in-caste-crime-... Why are you doing a 'not all men', 'i have black friends' thing here? Anyone can google for these things and figure out the truth. If you're a brahmin then please stop talking for the victims of your very own system. Discrimination is illegal so it went away? Reservations don't counter discrimination. They're for representation.
- ra7 6y ago
  I don't think I'm doing anything close to what you're suggesting, except merely saying caste system isn't a state policy enforced by the government. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist in the society. > Why are you doing a 'not all men', 'i have black friends' thing here? > If you're a brahmin then please stop talking for the victims of your very own system. This is not a level of discussion I want to engage in. It's neither informative nor productive.
  - vijaybritto 6y ago
    Good try there. After you're done with the jokes, you can read the persecution faced by the current PRESIDENT of India. https://www.news18.com/news/opinion/opinion-the-jagannath-temple-incident-shows-that-the-socially-ruling-class-can-nudge-even-the-president-1795125.html https://www.news18.com/news/opinion/opinion-the-jagannath-te...
    - TriNetra 6y ago
      If you had searched it a little more, you would have found that it was a fake story - https://www.indiatoday.in/fact-check/story/viral-test-no-misconduct-with-president-kovind-at-puri-1273720-2018-06-30 https://www.indiatoday.in/fact-check/story/viral-test-no-mis... News these days isn't something you can trust blindly. Many a times, fake stories have been planted for political motive/social unrest. Suddenly before election lynching stories start to pop up, see the pattern and understand the motive behind.
      - vijaybritto 6y ago
        Casteism against Dalits is not a political motive. It's the way of life. Also the above fact check by india Today is a lie. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news18.com/amp/news/india/president-kovind-first-lady-harassed-during-jagannath-temple-visit-1791825.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news18.com/amp/news/india/p... The supreme court had stepped in to express displeasure! Also this is not a perspective to hold based on a news article. You are making it sound like it's a rate thing happening in India.
- TriNetra 6y ago
  > A low caste guy was shot dead last week for entering a temple. Check the last paragraph in that news: > However, SP Amroha Vipin Tada denied the father’s charges saying that the initial report suggests of a dispute between Vikas’s elder brother and the accused over money. The police maintained that the murder was the result of an altercation between the two accused, and the elder brother of the deceased, over a sum of Rs 5,000. As I also found that the president related news you share was also proven false. I can only tell you again that not everything you are reading these days is a truth. If you keep a certain prospective, the world will appear exactly like that to you whichever way you see because your mind looks for and rejoices in validation of its beliefs/opinions.
  - vijaybritto 6y ago
    Sorry I have just experienced/read too much in real life experiences to not believe in casteism. On the small note: of course the police maintain that it was not true
    - TriNetra 6y ago
      I'm not saying there's no castism - there's always some sort of discrimination in every society as human beings mostly behave as selfish and unkind due to their insecurities and prejudice. But voices against are also far easier to express and be heard these days. However, if you fuel anger and hatred in you, you're only going to get bitter and restless. which will waste your energies which you could otherwise spend in more meaningful/productive activities that uplift people you care about. Plus not everything is black and white, no matter how much we want to see it that way. For instance, many Brahmans are also in very bad condition in India. There's a prospective that if you read with an open mind, can be useful. Found that here: https://www.ifih.org/ThePlightofBrahmins.htm https://www.ifih.org/ThePlightofBrahmins.htm In current time the opportunities are endless. By being positive and productive, we can grow India and the world into a beautiful place, fighting, denigrating and blaming each other will only delay that.
      - vijaybritto 6y ago

by ra7 6y ago

vijaybritto 6y ago

Woah dude. This is so funny. A low caste guy was shot dead last week for entering a temple. https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/17-year-old-dalit-boy-shot-dead-in-up-by-4-upper-caste-youths-over-temple-entry-97252 https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/17-year-old-dalit-b... A man was made to drink urine for loving a girl from upper caste. https://www.thelede.in/governance/2020/05/22/in-caste-crime-dalit-boy-beaten-forced-to-drink-urine https://www.thelede.in/governance/2020/05/22/in-caste-crime-... Why are you doing a 'not all men', 'i have black friends' thing here? Anyone can google for these things and figure out the truth. If you're a brahmin then please stop talking for the victims of your very own system. Discrimination is illegal so it went away? Reservations don't counter discrimination. They're for representation.

ra7 6y ago
I don't think I'm doing anything close to what you're suggesting, except merely saying caste system isn't a state policy enforced by the government. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist in the society. > Why are you doing a 'not all men', 'i have black friends' thing here? > If you're a brahmin then please stop talking for the victims of your very own system. This is not a level of discussion I want to engage in. It's neither informative nor productive.
- vijaybritto 6y ago
  Good try there. After you're done with the jokes, you can read the persecution faced by the current PRESIDENT of India. https://www.news18.com/news/opinion/opinion-the-jagannath-temple-incident-shows-that-the-socially-ruling-class-can-nudge-even-the-president-1795125.html https://www.news18.com/news/opinion/opinion-the-jagannath-te...
  - TriNetra 6y ago
    If you had searched it a little more, you would have found that it was a fake story - https://www.indiatoday.in/fact-check/story/viral-test-no-misconduct-with-president-kovind-at-puri-1273720-2018-06-30 https://www.indiatoday.in/fact-check/story/viral-test-no-mis... News these days isn't something you can trust blindly. Many a times, fake stories have been planted for political motive/social unrest. Suddenly before election lynching stories start to pop up, see the pattern and understand the motive behind.
    - vijaybritto 6y ago
      Casteism against Dalits is not a political motive. It's the way of life. Also the above fact check by india Today is a lie. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news18.com/amp/news/india/president-kovind-first-lady-harassed-during-jagannath-temple-visit-1791825.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news18.com/amp/news/india/p... The supreme court had stepped in to express displeasure! Also this is not a perspective to hold based on a news article. You are making it sound like it's a rate thing happening in India.
TriNetra 6y ago
> A low caste guy was shot dead last week for entering a temple. Check the last paragraph in that news: > However, SP Amroha Vipin Tada denied the father’s charges saying that the initial report suggests of a dispute between Vikas’s elder brother and the accused over money. The police maintained that the murder was the result of an altercation between the two accused, and the elder brother of the deceased, over a sum of Rs 5,000. As I also found that the president related news you share was also proven false. I can only tell you again that not everything you are reading these days is a truth. If you keep a certain prospective, the world will appear exactly like that to you whichever way you see because your mind looks for and rejoices in validation of its beliefs/opinions.
- vijaybritto 6y ago
  Sorry I have just experienced/read too much in real life experiences to not believe in casteism. On the small note: of course the police maintain that it was not true
  - TriNetra 6y ago
    I'm not saying there's no castism - there's always some sort of discrimination in every society as human beings mostly behave as selfish and unkind due to their insecurities and prejudice. But voices against are also far easier to express and be heard these days. However, if you fuel anger and hatred in you, you're only going to get bitter and restless. which will waste your energies which you could otherwise spend in more meaningful/productive activities that uplift people you care about. Plus not everything is black and white, no matter how much we want to see it that way. For instance, many Brahmans are also in very bad condition in India. There's a prospective that if you read with an open mind, can be useful. Found that here: https://www.ifih.org/ThePlightofBrahmins.htm https://www.ifih.org/ThePlightofBrahmins.htm In current time the opportunities are endless. By being positive and productive, we can grow India and the world into a beautiful place, fighting, denigrating and blaming each other will only delay that.
    - vijaybritto 6y ago