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> would making it a bit more expensive lead to nobody bothering to collect all my information? No In all respect, this is a really naive view of the ad tech m

> would making it a bit more expensive lead to nobody bothering to collect all my information? No In all respect, this is a really naive view of the ad tech marketplace. The only thing that would do what you're saying is legislation. Making it more expensive just pushes out smaller players in the marketplace, leading to consolidation towards the Google's / Facebooks of the world.

elisharobinson 6y ago
a legislation with a flat tax would not be that bad. i guesstimate that close to 70% maybe more of new ads are done online. and google and facebook are disruptive to old players who pay a lot more in taxes. this tax would definitely affect new players to the digital add buisness , but i dont see anyone even trying.
dfxm12 6y ago
Yes, and getting the tracking/data collection to stop is more valuable than the amounts of money being floated around in this thread. Money doesn't solve every issue, especially when your adversaries have so much more money (and power) than you.
jerf 6y ago
I'd love to see a 1cent/impression tax, personally. It would consolidate the market, sure, but it would very nearly destroy it, too. The resulting Google and Facebook left behind wouldn't be left with so many resources to be anti-social with. Internalize the externalities.
- chris123 6y ago
  Only tax the biggest players?
  - jerf 6y ago
    Personally, I have no reason or desire to add that clause, but there is ample precedent for progressive taxation so it's not an impossible idea. If I were given that as a deal-or-no-deal sort of thing, I'd take the deal to get the tax.
  - rorykoehler 6y ago
    Tax applies to all companies with $1B + revenues?
akshaybhalotia 6y ago
All due respect but "law cannot fix what technology has broken" is quite true. I was going through this fairly balanced view [1] on why you shouldn't sell your data, and the power imbalance strikes me real hard. Once you legalize this circus and put a price on it, this will go exactly as thousands of other businesses go. (Hint: not in customer's favor) [1]: https://slate.com/technology/2020/04/sell-your-own-data-bad-idea.html https://slate.com/technology/2020/04/sell-your-own-data-bad-...
- sroussey 6y ago
  Users must unionize for their data access, otherwise the price goes to zero
bonoboTP 6y ago
But that the same argument works for imposing regulation on any kind of pollution activity. We can't introduce food safety regulation, it would kill mom and pop operations and only big companies can afford to pay for the inspections and certification!

elisharobinson 6y ago

a legislation with a flat tax would not be that bad. i guesstimate that close to 70% maybe more of new ads are done online. and google and facebook are disruptive to old players who pay a lot more in taxes. this tax would definitely affect new players to the digital add buisness , but i dont see anyone even trying.

dfxm12 6y ago

Yes, and getting the tracking/data collection to stop is more valuable than the amounts of money being floated around in this thread. Money doesn't solve every issue, especially when your adversaries have so much more money (and power) than you.

jerf 6y ago

I'd love to see a 1cent/impression tax, personally. It would consolidate the market, sure, but it would very nearly destroy it, too. The resulting Google and Facebook left behind wouldn't be left with so many resources to be anti-social with. Internalize the externalities.

chris123 6y ago
Only tax the biggest players?
- jerf 6y ago
  Personally, I have no reason or desire to add that clause, but there is ample precedent for progressive taxation so it's not an impossible idea. If I were given that as a deal-or-no-deal sort of thing, I'd take the deal to get the tax.
- rorykoehler 6y ago
  Tax applies to all companies with $1B + revenues?

akshaybhalotia 6y ago

All due respect but "law cannot fix what technology has broken" is quite true. I was going through this fairly balanced view [1] on why you shouldn't sell your data, and the power imbalance strikes me real hard. Once you legalize this circus and put a price on it, this will go exactly as thousands of other businesses go. (Hint: not in customer's favor) [1]: https://slate.com/technology/2020/04/sell-your-own-data-bad-idea.html https://slate.com/technology/2020/04/sell-your-own-data-bad-...

sroussey 6y ago
Users must unionize for their data access, otherwise the price goes to zero

bonoboTP 6y ago

But that the same argument works for imposing regulation on any kind of pollution activity. We can't introduce food safety regulation, it would kill mom and pop operations and only big companies can afford to pay for the inspections and certification!