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> Many people complain about AWS' networking costs, but I also suspect these are generally at-cost. This seems to be demonstrably false, given that Amazon Ligh

by ac29 6y ago

> Many people complain about AWS' networking costs, but I also suspect these are generally at-cost. This seems to be demonstrably false, given that Amazon Lightsail exists. Along with some compute and storage resources: $3.50 gets you 1TB egress ($0.0035/GB) $5 gets you 2TB egress ($0.0025/GB) Now, its certainly possible that Amazon is taking a loss on this product. Its also possible that they have data showing that these types of users don't use more than a few percent of their allocated egress. But I suspect that they are actually more than capable of turning a profit at those rates.

sudosysgen 6y ago
And I mean, if you just compare the price of Amazon's egress compared to that of a VPS at Hetzner or OVH, to say nothing of the cheaper ones, you can be sure that they are making margins of over 200% on it for EC2. There's a 4$ VPS on OVH with unlimited egress at 100Mbps. 4$! That's a theoretical maximum of 1Tb egress each three hours. So for the cost of 3 hours of egress you can buy an entire VPS with a month of egress, for cheaper. It's insane just how much cheaper it really is.
- buster 6y ago
  Indeed it is. But rest assured that every provider will shut your server down if it's running at full bandwidth all day.
  - sudosysgen 6y ago
    Sure. But you just need to run your server at full bandwidth for one hour every day to use up 10 times more bandwidth than even lightsail would give you for the price of the server. I assure you that you can run these servers for one hour a day and no one will bat an eye. I know people running seedboxes at full speed for 10 hours a day or so without an issue - that's 100 times the bandwidth of even Lightsail for the same price.
  - dx034 6y ago
    No, Hetzner charges you <$2/TB. for that price, they'll be happy to route as much traffic as you want. Never heard that they complain in these cases. They have worse peering than AWS but the difference in cost to them is certainly not 100x or more.
    - buster 6y ago
      Obviously the comment is in reply to having unlimited traffic for a flat fee and not for a price per TB.

by ac29 6y ago

sudosysgen 6y ago

And I mean, if you just compare the price of Amazon's egress compared to that of a VPS at Hetzner or OVH, to say nothing of the cheaper ones, you can be sure that they are making margins of over 200% on it for EC2. There's a 4$ VPS on OVH with unlimited egress at 100Mbps. 4$! That's a theoretical maximum of 1Tb egress each three hours. So for the cost of 3 hours of egress you can buy an entire VPS with a month of egress, for cheaper. It's insane just how much cheaper it really is.

buster 6y ago
Indeed it is. But rest assured that every provider will shut your server down if it's running at full bandwidth all day.
- sudosysgen 6y ago
  Sure. But you just need to run your server at full bandwidth for one hour every day to use up 10 times more bandwidth than even lightsail would give you for the price of the server. I assure you that you can run these servers for one hour a day and no one will bat an eye. I know people running seedboxes at full speed for 10 hours a day or so without an issue - that's 100 times the bandwidth of even Lightsail for the same price.
- dx034 6y ago
  No, Hetzner charges you <$2/TB. for that price, they'll be happy to route as much traffic as you want. Never heard that they complain in these cases. They have worse peering than AWS but the difference in cost to them is certainly not 100x or more.
  - buster 6y ago
    Obviously the comment is in reply to having unlimited traffic for a flat fee and not for a price per TB.