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Reddit admin message: > Your account has been suspended from for breaking the rules. Your account has been suspended for 3 day(s). >> You recently upvoted a p
by manfredo 6y ago
Reddit admin message:
> Your account has been suspended from for breaking the rules. Your account has been suspended for 3 day(s).
>> You recently upvoted a post or comment that was determined to be against our policies. Abusive content is not acceptable on Reddit nor is engaging with it. Please be thoughful about the content that you interact with.
Interestingly nothing in the Reddit policies seems to mention voting or engaging with content: https://www.redditinc.com/policies/content-policy https://www.redditinc.com/policies/content-policy
- Simulacra 6y agoAs well, punishing someone for Engagement without malice, which you later determined to violate policy to, is a bit obtuse.
- s9w 6y agoThey officially announced this three months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/f8y9nx/spring_forward_into_reddits_2019_transparency/ https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/f8y9nx/sprin... > Users who consistently upvote policy-breaking content within quarantined communities will receive automated warnings, followed by further consequences like a temporary or permanent suspension. We hope this will encourage healthier behavior across these communities. Until now that has mostly been warnings for posting in "bad" subs. Now after most of those are gone I guess it's time for the next phase.
- manfredo 6y agoFull message: > I’d like to share an update about our thinking around quarantined communities. > When we expanded our quarantine policy, we created an appeals process for sanctioned communities. One of the goals was to “force subscribers to reconsider their behavior and incentivize moderators to make changes.” While the policy attempted to hold moderators more accountable for enforcing healthier rules and norms, it didn’t address the role that each member plays in the health of their community. > Today, we’re making an update to address this gap: Users who consistently upvote policy-breaking content within quarantined communities will receive automated warnings, followed by further consequences like a temporary or permanent suspension. We hope this will encourage healthier behavior across these communities. This seems strange to me. If this content is violating reddit's policies then why don't they ban them? It seems awkward to have this middle ground of "semi-banned" content where users get suspensions if they interact with it too much. Why create these invisible land-mines for users? I imagine it's because banning this content outright would make Reddit admins appear even more biased, or because the content doesn't actually violate any policies but puts off advertisers.
- ketzu 6y agoOne of the easiest reasons is the order of these things: post being made, post being upvoted, post being recognized as tos violation
- abtom 6y agoThis is super stupid. If they're so against the content why allow it to exist in the first place?
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- defertoreptar 6y agoWhether they intended it this way or not, users will now be worried they're upvoting the "wrong" thing and will be less likely to vote unpopular opinions and political views, just in case.
- downerending 6y agoArguably in 2020, you should be very careful about expressing any opinion that is in any way unpopular. Or that even could be construed as such.
- csunbird 6y agoI feel like people have forgotten what free speech is.
- downerending 6y agoI grew up in a very fundamentalist (Christian) area, so the lack of it feels very familiar.
- rabuse 6y agoWrongthink is becoming a reality.
- jdashg 6y agoI imagine this is reactive, since they can't proactively moderate their content. When they do get around to moderating (like checking reported comments), they can then penalize people who promoted the unacceptable content. I think there should indeed be penalties for upvoting e.g. death threats.
- NietTim 6y agoThat message is so stupid. What's there to learn from the punishment if you don't know what you did wrong?
- marcusverus 6y agoThis actually strikes me as an intelligent (albeit Orwellian) approach to rules enforcement. If Reddit's goal is to encourage broader self-censorship of wrong-think, the message makes perfect sense. If Reddit informed a user that they broke Rule A, a rational user would learn a specific lesson. They would learn that they can avoid punishment by not interacting with content that breaks (or might break) Rule A. By punishing without an explicit explanation, a rational user must conclude that, to avoid punishment, they cannot risk interacting with content that breaks (or might break) any of the rules on the website.
- folmar 6y agoYou learn that you are on the mercy of the platform owner. And that if you withhold enough details of the punishment you can play afool with courts.
- SauciestGNU 6y agoI got one of these warnings, and I've narrowed down what I engaged with to a Hard Times article. Strange times when reddit finds satire too spicy for their site.
- UhDev 6y agoYou can make as many accounts as you want, no need to use an email address.
- bitxbitxbitcoin 6y agoThis actually changed in the last few years.
- UhDev 6y agoNo it didn't, just click next when it asks for an email adddress.