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companies who ask their employees to take risks with their health, without a compelling reason, are destroying any sense of goodwill or morale. In the short ter

companies who ask their employees to take risks with their health, without a compelling reason, are destroying any sense of goodwill or morale. In the short term, that change might be invisible, but over the long-term it destroys businesses

yomly 6y ago
It sends the message "I don't care about you" very loud and clear. Don't be surprised when your employees suddenly stop caring about your company
- pbourke 6y ago
  Yeah, a switch gets flipped that cannot be unflipped. It becomes a mercenary situation until you can exit.
_jal 6y ago
I know one startup learning this. They're ~80 people, and I thought they had a decent chance of making it until this. They lost their 'backbone' over the return-to-work plan. She was the one who kept everything nontechnical running. She felt the risk of bringing it home was too great, and $CEO pressured when he should have compromised. Now they're losing other key staff and it looks likely to become a stampede. I'm sure there are many possible takeaways from this, and one would be to beware of soft-power/moral-authority rivals. I think a far smarter one might be about empathy.
asdfman123 6y ago
I feel like American society is obsessed with safety and the value of individual lives, which has never made sense to me but I go along with it out of respect. However, when your actions have a x% chance of killing someone, and you can mitigate it with reasonable precautions... ad what value of X do you go along with? There's a disconnect there. Either people are really bad at math and science, or they do not care about other people's lives nearly as much as they think.
- Leherenn 6y ago
  Why doesn't it make sense that people do not want to die (generally)?
  - Y-Bopinator 6y ago
    If I would die for my startup, surely my employees would too
  - asdfman123 6y ago
    I'm talking about a general societal lack of acceptance about death. You don't really see it as much in many other cultures.
    - mac01021 6y ago
      For example?

yomly 6y ago

It sends the message "I don't care about you" very loud and clear. Don't be surprised when your employees suddenly stop caring about your company

pbourke 6y ago
Yeah, a switch gets flipped that cannot be unflipped. It becomes a mercenary situation until you can exit.

_jal 6y ago

I know one startup learning this. They're ~80 people, and I thought they had a decent chance of making it until this. They lost their 'backbone' over the return-to-work plan. She was the one who kept everything nontechnical running. She felt the risk of bringing it home was too great, and $CEO pressured when he should have compromised. Now they're losing other key staff and it looks likely to become a stampede. I'm sure there are many possible takeaways from this, and one would be to beware of soft-power/moral-authority rivals. I think a far smarter one might be about empathy.

asdfman123 6y ago

I feel like American society is obsessed with safety and the value of individual lives, which has never made sense to me but I go along with it out of respect. However, when your actions have a x% chance of killing someone, and you can mitigate it with reasonable precautions... ad what value of X do you go along with? There's a disconnect there. Either people are really bad at math and science, or they do not care about other people's lives nearly as much as they think.

Leherenn 6y ago
Why doesn't it make sense that people do not want to die (generally)?
- Y-Bopinator 6y ago
  If I would die for my startup, surely my employees would too
- asdfman123 6y ago
  I'm talking about a general societal lack of acceptance about death. You don't really see it as much in many other cultures.
  - mac01021 6y ago
    For example?