>And, let's be honest, games that try to teach you math or science are just not as fun as Fortnite or Minecraft. Only if you try to do it very naively. Most o

>And, let's be honest, games that try to teach you math or science are just not as fun as Fortnite or Minecraft. Only if you try to do it very naively. Most of the time, these "games" are "lets put blinky lights around match equations." That's definitely not how you turn math and science into games. You turn them into games by making engineering games. There was a really great paper I ran into a decade ago that looked at the theory making by players of World of Warcraft. Players were coming up with complex mathematical models for how to play the game most efficiently. THAT is how you make math a game. The goal of the game shouldn't be "let's solve these math problems." The goal of the game should be anything but that, and then you setup the game so that the best way to reach that goal is to use math. Science opens the door even further, because hypothesis and experimentation is a fundamental part of playing games. There was a recent post on here regarding the best ways to learn electricity. One of the top replies was to use some minecraft mod. I don't know anything about that mod, but that fact that it was one of the recommendations really said a lot to me.