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elindbe2 nicely summarizes Bret Weinstein's paper and the Joe Rogan clip. Eric Weinstein's 2hr+ Portal Podcast #19 on YouTube is frustrating but I'd summarize
by sradman 6y ago
elindbe2 nicely summarizes Bret Weinstein's paper and the Joe Rogan clip.
Eric Weinstein's 2hr+ Portal Podcast #19 on YouTube is frustrating but I'd summarize the "new" info from memory as:
- math oriented older brother Eric thinks biology oriented younger brother Bret is Nobel Prize worthy
- yet Bret and his mouse telomere paper live in obscurity
- reason 1: Bret chose Evergreen rather than a top tier University
- reason 2: the science establishment is biased against disruptive ideas and scientists
- Carol Greider’s 2009 Nobel Prize was based on work inspired by informal phone calls and emails from Bret
- Bret claims that Greider failed to recognize his contribution and then actively undermined his paper(s) through the peer review process
I wish we had TL;DR + Start/Stop Links into the original video. Long form audio/video podcasts are both a boon and a curse since the content cannot easily be searched or linked to.
- Shoreleave 6y ago> Carol Greider’s 2009 Nobel Prize was based on work inspired by informal phone calls and emails from Bret Bret is quick to point out that Dr. Greider's Nobel prize is well deserved and for related, but earlier work. The contention is over later work. Their conversation did inspire these findings about lab mice telomeres. But Dr. Greider's lab decided to keep the information "in house". This means that instead of publishing the source of the information, they can use their knowledge to start predicting other results, and publish a full stream of paper first. This is at 1:23:50.
- cma 6y ago> Carol Greider’s 2009 Nobel Prize was based on work inspired by informal phone calls and emails from Bret She discovered telomerase in 1984 and had decades of research on it. She didn't win the prize from a phone call with Bret.