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> Except, apparently, for the topic of this article. Well, Deno devs did try to use TypeScript, and just ran into some challenges, and decided to throw the bab

> Except, apparently, for the topic of this article. Well, Deno devs did try to use TypeScript, and just ran into some challenges, and decided to throw the baby out with the bath water. I've seen this a lot in my 30yrs exp.: some developer/team runs into problems, gets frustrated, gives up, and decides the best decision is to remove some important piece rather than solve the actual problems. The reason Deno is giving up TypeScript is representative of failure, and not an indication them wanting JS instead of TS. What they want is TS. The rest of your reply is just stating some minor imperfections that are a billion miles from invalidating TS. And yeah, there's a place for JavaScript still, for small-scale tinkering, or perhaps even prototypes with only a few hundred lines of code. Any large scale project in JavaScript (not TS) is simply unfathomable to any modern developer worth his salt.

inimino 6y ago
You're a dogmatic true believer, and it's rarely worth arguing with dogmatic true believers. Just notice that you threw everyone that disagrees with you (or rather, that comprehends a wider range of circumstances than you do) under the bus as "not worth [our] salt". That was not the right thing to say. And you dismiss my reply (including the part where I point out that the website we are on was first developed in a Lisp) as "some minor imperfections". It's like you're satirizing the tunnel vision of the fundamentalist. And, true to form, you "know" what the deno team wants better than they themselves do! I hope you can come back to this thread in a year or two with some perspective.
- WClayFerguson 6y ago
  In the above discussion I focused on the technologies, programming languages, and the core of the technical issue. You seem to focus on personalities, feelings, and emotions. To each his own, I guess. And about me knowing Deno did want to, and did attempt to use TypeScript: the way I know that is because I read the article, lol. Apparently you did not.
  - inimino 6y ago
    I did read the article, and also the design doc which I linked in my top-level comment. The facts are that they started with TypeScript and moved away (for a particular internal component). The interpretation of that as wanting to use it and failing is yours. You could just as well see it as having made a mistake and then realizing it. But all of these interpretations, by those of us who didn't have to make the choice and weren't there when it was made, aren't very helpful.
    - WClayFerguson 6y ago
      That's correct. They failed to get TypeScript to work. Thanks for reading that.

inimino 6y ago

You're a dogmatic true believer, and it's rarely worth arguing with dogmatic true believers. Just notice that you threw everyone that disagrees with you (or rather, that comprehends a wider range of circumstances than you do) under the bus as "not worth [our] salt". That was not the right thing to say. And you dismiss my reply (including the part where I point out that the website we are on was first developed in a Lisp) as "some minor imperfections". It's like you're satirizing the tunnel vision of the fundamentalist. And, true to form, you "know" what the deno team wants better than they themselves do! I hope you can come back to this thread in a year or two with some perspective.

WClayFerguson 6y ago
In the above discussion I focused on the technologies, programming languages, and the core of the technical issue. You seem to focus on personalities, feelings, and emotions. To each his own, I guess. And about me knowing Deno did want to, and did attempt to use TypeScript: the way I know that is because I read the article, lol. Apparently you did not.
- inimino 6y ago
  I did read the article, and also the design doc which I linked in my top-level comment. The facts are that they started with TypeScript and moved away (for a particular internal component). The interpretation of that as wanting to use it and failing is yours. You could just as well see it as having made a mistake and then realizing it. But all of these interpretations, by those of us who didn't have to make the choice and weren't there when it was made, aren't very helpful.
  - WClayFerguson 6y ago
    That's correct. They failed to get TypeScript to work. Thanks for reading that.