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> Timothy McVeigh Who did he work with again?

• pjc50 6y ago
  He had a couple of accomplices, but he was radicalised by the Waco fiasco and linked to what these days would be called the "milita movement".
  • gadders 6y ago
    And the even bigger fiasco of Ruby Ridge.
    • pjc50 6y ago
      So I had to refresh myself on the details of this via wikipedia, and with a 2020 eye it seems almost like the white version of complaints about police brutality per BLM. - victim becomes a martyr despite being "no angel" (Weaver was a white supremacist, dealing in illegal firearms) - initial involvement of law enforcement is entrapment (undercover ATF agents) - lies by law enforcement ("the ATF filed the gun charges in June 1990. It claimed that Weaver was a bank robber with criminal convictions.[27] (Those claims were false: at that time Weaver had no criminal record. The 1995 Senate investigation found: "Weaver was not a suspect in any bank robberies.") - basic cockups (court date mixup) - absurdly long quasi-siege - significantly lighter treatment and more investigation than similar fiascoes for nonwhite people (e.g. Breonna Taylor); the 2020 version of this would probably have just been to drive a MRAP through the shack and use the return fire as sufficient justification for the killings (see e.g. https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/08/31/actor-steven-seagal-sued-for-driving-tank-into-arizona-home-killing-puppy/#69e1ab5d7489 https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/08/31/actor-steve... ) - they shot the dog. They always shoot the dog - attempt to prosecute sniper is met with sovereign immunity, case is dropped