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With geekbench scores, the A13 is outperforming some mobile i7 processors: https://gadgetversus.com/processor/intel-core-i7-8565u-vs-apple-a13-bionic/#:~:text=I

by jjcm 6y ago

With geekbench scores, the A13 is outperforming some mobile i7 processors: https://gadgetversus.com/processor/intel-core-i7-8565u-vs-apple-a13-bionic/#:~:text=Intel%20Core%20i7%2D8565U%20vs%20Apple%20A13%20Bionic,maximum%20frequency%20of%204.6GHz https://gadgetversus.com/processor/intel-core-i7-8565u-vs-ap.... With a new A14 chip combined with intel stagnation, it wouldn't be too crazy to see a 50-100% increase, especially if you looked at multi-core scores.

dispat0r 6y ago
50-100% seems a little high. I think Apple has picked the low hanging fruit. This kind of performance increase is only possible in multicore workloads. Single core would be more like 20-30%. But maybe they can increase clock speeds with the new 5nm node.
- darkteflon 6y ago
  They’ll be working with a more forgiving thermal envelope than in iOS devices too, though.
strictnein 6y ago
> Geekbench 4 - Multi-core & single core score - iOS & Android 64-bit What does that even mean? The Intel platform is running Android?
- lostmsu 6y ago
  I assume the tests are same regardless of platform.
  - kllrnohj 6y ago
    They aren't, though. Compare windows vs. linux geekbench scores of identical hardware, they are extremely different: Linux: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2638097 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2638097 Windows: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2635048 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2635048 Geekbench is a terrible benchmark.
    - wizee 6y ago
      You cherry picked a terrible example. Here are some more Windows examples with the same chip: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2628613 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2628613 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2628613 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2628613 In my own personal experience, running Geekbench on many machines, Geekbench scores are pretty close running between Windows and Linux on the same machine. At least for compiling code (my main use for powerful machines), their compilation benchmark numbers also fairly closely match compilation times I observe.
      - lostmsu 6y ago
        Your links are identical.
- FractalParadigm 6y ago
  It's entirely possible they installed Android on the Intel platform. Unlikely, but possible.
  - neurostimulant 6y ago
    I had an Intel x86 Android phone from Asus a while ago, complete with Intel Inside logo on the back case. Not sure if they still sell x86 phones these days though. https://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_2_ze551ml-6917.php https://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_2_ze551ml-6917.php
vardump 6y ago
While I certainly agree A13 is a fast chip, the more I've compared Geekbench scores the less convinced I am that the results can be compared between platforms. Also first i7 chip was released in 2008. (The chip you refer to appears to be modern though, from 2018.) To prevent any misunderstandings, I agree A13 has performance comparable to a modern laptop. I just don't think Geekbench is a right tool to measure that difference.

by jjcm 6y ago

dispat0r 6y ago

50-100% seems a little high. I think Apple has picked the low hanging fruit. This kind of performance increase is only possible in multicore workloads. Single core would be more like 20-30%. But maybe they can increase clock speeds with the new 5nm node.

darkteflon 6y ago
They’ll be working with a more forgiving thermal envelope than in iOS devices too, though.

strictnein 6y ago

> Geekbench 4 - Multi-core & single core score - iOS & Android 64-bit What does that even mean? The Intel platform is running Android?

lostmsu 6y ago
I assume the tests are same regardless of platform.
- kllrnohj 6y ago
  They aren't, though. Compare windows vs. linux geekbench scores of identical hardware, they are extremely different: Linux: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2638097 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2638097 Windows: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2635048 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2635048 Geekbench is a terrible benchmark.
  - wizee 6y ago
    You cherry picked a terrible example. Here are some more Windows examples with the same chip: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2628613 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2628613 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2628613 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/2628613 In my own personal experience, running Geekbench on many machines, Geekbench scores are pretty close running between Windows and Linux on the same machine. At least for compiling code (my main use for powerful machines), their compilation benchmark numbers also fairly closely match compilation times I observe.
    - lostmsu 6y ago
      Your links are identical.
FractalParadigm 6y ago
It's entirely possible they installed Android on the Intel platform. Unlikely, but possible.
- neurostimulant 6y ago
  I had an Intel x86 Android phone from Asus a while ago, complete with Intel Inside logo on the back case. Not sure if they still sell x86 phones these days though. https://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_2_ze551ml-6917.php https://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_2_ze551ml-6917.php

vardump 6y ago

While I certainly agree A13 is a fast chip, the more I've compared Geekbench scores the less convinced I am that the results can be compared between platforms. Also first i7 chip was released in 2008. (The chip you refer to appears to be modern though, from 2018.) To prevent any misunderstandings, I agree A13 has performance comparable to a modern laptop. I just don't think Geekbench is a right tool to measure that difference.