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This is an app that supporters choose to install on their own phones. I’d be much more interested to read about how cellphone location tracking is used to geot

by zaroth 6y ago

This is an app that supporters choose to install on their own phones. I’d be much more interested to read about how cellphone location tracking is used to geotarget campaign ads to unwilling recipients who have not opted in to receive messages from the campaign, or have their location data shared. https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-political-groups-are-harvesting-data-from-protesters-11592156142 https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-political-groups-are-harves...

aspenmayer 6y ago
These tactics might allow coordination in ways which are not allowed under federal campaign finance regulations. Definitely an area that deserves intense scrutiny.
- radomysisky 6y ago
  But BLM through ActBlue (DNC) aren't skirting those same regulations?
  - CamJN 6y ago
    Nice whataboutism.
  - jaxn 6y ago
    Are you saying that BLM are coordinating with canidates for elected office without disclosing the contribution?
    - radomysisky 6y ago
      They wouldn't need to. Read ActBlue's own fine print: https://secure.actblue.com/content/fineprint https://secure.actblue.com/content/fineprint > In the event that a campaign or committee (a) fails for 60 days to cash a check from ActBlue which includes your contribution (after ActBlue makes repeated attempts to work with the campaign to ensure all checks are cashed), or (b) affirmatively refuses a contribution earmarked through ActBlue, your contribution will be re-designated as a contribution to ActBlue. Contributions to social welfare organizations which are similarly not cashed or affirmatively refused will be kept by ActBlue and used generally to support its social welfare activities. Contributions to charitable organizations which are not cashed or affirmatively refused will go to ActBlue Charities.
      - jaxn 6y ago
        Except neither ActBlue nor BLM are political candidates. The rules for PACs contributing to other PACs are much more lax. The problem arises when a PAC and a Candidate coordinate strategy and spending without disclosing it as a contribution (and being subject to contribution limits). There is nothing unethical in what you posted.

by zaroth 6y ago

aspenmayer 6y ago

These tactics might allow coordination in ways which are not allowed under federal campaign finance regulations. Definitely an area that deserves intense scrutiny.

radomysisky 6y ago
But BLM through ActBlue (DNC) aren't skirting those same regulations?
- CamJN 6y ago
  Nice whataboutism.
- jaxn 6y ago
  Are you saying that BLM are coordinating with canidates for elected office without disclosing the contribution?
  - radomysisky 6y ago
    They wouldn't need to. Read ActBlue's own fine print: https://secure.actblue.com/content/fineprint https://secure.actblue.com/content/fineprint > In the event that a campaign or committee (a) fails for 60 days to cash a check from ActBlue which includes your contribution (after ActBlue makes repeated attempts to work with the campaign to ensure all checks are cashed), or (b) affirmatively refuses a contribution earmarked through ActBlue, your contribution will be re-designated as a contribution to ActBlue. Contributions to social welfare organizations which are similarly not cashed or affirmatively refused will be kept by ActBlue and used generally to support its social welfare activities. Contributions to charitable organizations which are not cashed or affirmatively refused will go to ActBlue Charities.
    - jaxn 6y ago
      Except neither ActBlue nor BLM are political candidates. The rules for PACs contributing to other PACs are much more lax. The problem arises when a PAC and a Candidate coordinate strategy and spending without disclosing it as a contribution (and being subject to contribution limits). There is nothing unethical in what you posted.