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If you're making useless things, you have a surrogate activity. We use the term “surrogate activity” to designate an activity that is directed toward an artific
by froasty 6y ago
If you're making useless things, you have a surrogate activity. We use the term “surrogate activity” to designate an activity that is directed toward an artificial goal that people set up for themselves merely in order to have some goal to work toward, or let us say, merely for the sake of the “fulfillment” that they get from pursuing the goal.
Here is a rule of thumb for the identification of surrogate activities. Given a person who devotes much time and energy to the pursuit of goal X, ask yourself this: If he had to devote most of his time and energy to satisfying his biological needs, and if that effort required him to use his physical and mental faculties in a varied and interesting way, would he feel seriously deprived because he did not attain goal X? If the answer is no, then the person’s pursuit of goal X is a surrogate activity.
Computing is a surrogate activity factory. Social media makes people's lives more hollow, less connected, less human, but in exchange, gives them the illusion that they are living principled, meaningful lives, living in caves, like brains in a jar.
At root, it's not about "making the world better", it's about professionals looting the commons to live in fancy bubbles where the only competition is staying ahead of others in the bubble. Hacker News is not the place to say this, as it is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.
Here's the situation on the ground for the working class and the supposed social good of the Internet: Every single one of my family members, parents included, is both a precariat and on Facebook all day, every day. They don't have social lives. They don't have stable employment. They don't have careers. They don't know how to cook, how to learn, how to grow as humans. They don't know how to think for themselves, let alone interpret what they read, see, or watch. They hate what the screen tells them to hate; they like what the screen tells them to like. They've been singularly paralyzed in development, despite every effort to free them from their bondage from people outside the process.
Every day, the memory of being a living, breathing human becomes more and more remote to them, and there's no stopping it, because the entire process is autocephalous.
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- brundolf 6y agoI guess part of my argument is that, in moderation and with self-awareness, "surrogate activities" can be healthy and beneficial. In fact I think they're especially beneficial when the "natural" means for getting that fulfillment does in fact cause harm. Or, even when the natural activity simply has no other costs or benefits, the surrogate version might be able to meet the fulfillment more effectively than the real thing. In some sense, art's very purpose is to produce these surrogate experiences. I think they are essential to being a healthy, functioning human being.
- froasty 6y ago"In moderation and with self-awareness" is the same argument typically used for the licitness of drugs, alcohol, nutritionally devoid food, and dozens of other externality-generating vices. Yes, they frequently replace deficits in an individual's life with something that would otherwise cause them to disrupt the status quo. The question remains, at what cost? Is it sustainable? Are these activities robbing some humans at the expense of others? Consider a YouTube video: Water Bottle Flip 2. It's about five minutes long and has been nominally viewed 300 million times, plus change. That's approaching 3000 years of human time spent for a single video on a single service. The audience was probably entertained for that period but at what cost? What could have been in that lacunae? What else could have been accomplished or learned with that 3,000 years? What was the opportunity cost? For the countless children who watch it, what part of the pre-Internet childhood shared by all human history is being sacrificed for it? What part was sacrificed for the 23,000 years spent on Baby Shark? I don't disagree that there is a place for moderation and art, but what we're seeing on a grand scale is that the ascendancy of cultural forms that enable moderation are themselves being consumed or otherwise blanketed out with dopamine levers that are the first thing many people touch in the morning and the last thing they touch at night. That's not playing guitar, restoring vintage computers, or collecting Magic cards. That's a massive undiagnosed public health crisis.
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