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Agreed.

by cczizou 6y ago

Agreed.

selykg 6y ago
Given the downvotes I’m getting I think this industry is a lot more racist than I thought.
- geofft 6y ago
  The good news is that the downvotes aren't necessarily representative of the industry, in the sense of people who actually get things done. You'll notice that this change (see also the bit about being sponsored by Mellanox), the recent OpenZFS change, etc. were all made by core contributors to the projects. (It's also why the Contributor Covenant was fairly rapidly adopted by the actual contributors to so many projects, despite so many people being angry about it.) But yes, the open source fandom is distressingly racist.
  - selykg 6y ago
    The response to this is actually making me not want to even be a member of this site anymore. Amazing. What a sad group of people.
    - KryDos 6y ago
      Unfortunately, I can't understand why people who downvote and don't agree with you are considered racist. They just have different opinion and they probably affected by the rename in the same way as someone may be affected by word "Master" for example.
  - jb0x168 6y ago
    I don't think it's exactly racism in many of these cases, so much as a lack of empathy. If you're not personally affected by these terms, and you're not able to empathize with those that are, I can see why, without being overtly racist against any particular group of people, you could be against these changes. Our inability to empathize, or "put ourselves in someone else's shoes" is at the root of so many of our problems...
- salawat 6y ago
  No, it has nothing to do with race. It has to do with introducing politics, racism, and your personal social commentary into a field or topic area in which that has no relevance, and in which everyone is getting along just fine. It's looking at hard drives and calling everyone who has used terminology you think might offend someone racist through passive voice. Paint with broad strokes, and you should not be surprised to get blowback. Walk in and start calling everyone around you closet racists without any real justification other than word choice, and to be frank, you should be thankful you don't get a worse response than you do.

Agreed.

selykg 6y ago

Given the downvotes I’m getting I think this industry is a lot more racist than I thought.

geofft 6y ago
The good news is that the downvotes aren't necessarily representative of the industry, in the sense of people who actually get things done. You'll notice that this change (see also the bit about being sponsored by Mellanox), the recent OpenZFS change, etc. were all made by core contributors to the projects. (It's also why the Contributor Covenant was fairly rapidly adopted by the actual contributors to so many projects, despite so many people being angry about it.) But yes, the open source fandom is distressingly racist.
- selykg 6y ago
  The response to this is actually making me not want to even be a member of this site anymore. Amazing. What a sad group of people.
  - KryDos 6y ago
    Unfortunately, I can't understand why people who downvote and don't agree with you are considered racist. They just have different opinion and they probably affected by the rename in the same way as someone may be affected by word "Master" for example.
- jb0x168 6y ago
  I don't think it's exactly racism in many of these cases, so much as a lack of empathy. If you're not personally affected by these terms, and you're not able to empathize with those that are, I can see why, without being overtly racist against any particular group of people, you could be against these changes. Our inability to empathize, or "put ourselves in someone else's shoes" is at the root of so many of our problems...
salawat 6y ago
No, it has nothing to do with race. It has to do with introducing politics, racism, and your personal social commentary into a field or topic area in which that has no relevance, and in which everyone is getting along just fine. It's looking at hard drives and calling everyone who has used terminology you think might offend someone racist through passive voice. Paint with broad strokes, and you should not be surprised to get blowback. Walk in and start calling everyone around you closet racists without any real justification other than word choice, and to be frank, you should be thankful you don't get a worse response than you do.