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What is the deal with this denialism on Hacker News? Suddenly it seems everyone here incarnated the Elon Musk spirit.

jrobn 6y ago
Combination of disinformation, “entitle-ism”, denial, and money.
LiquidSky 6y ago
The Hacker News crowd tends to be pretty well off, so I imagine it’s that classic Upton Sinclair quote: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
ghaff 6y ago
You don't need to be denialist to think that it may be appropriate to get back to delayed medical procedures.
- doliveira 6y ago
  I assume emergency procedures are still being done.
  - ghaff 6y ago
    I'm not sure what that statement has to do with mine. Many medical procedures/visits that don't need to happen right now should nonetheless not be postponed indefinitely. Dental cleaning is certainly one of those. Others are operations to correct chronic pain or to forestall a future emergency. Now, you're certainly welcome to think that we should continue pushing those kind of visits/procedures out indefinitely but health officials in most places disagree.I'm being quite conservative in general but I have gone back to the dentist since they reopened.
insickness 6y ago
Sounds like your definition of denialism is anyone who wants to end the quarantine faster than you do--or at all.
- doliveira 6y ago
  No, my definition of denialism is someone who 'till this day is still defending the "it's just the flu" meme, just in a little more sophisticated package.
  - insickness 6y ago
    No where in these comments did anyone say "it's just the flu" or anything like that. You're straw-manning.
    - jhayward 6y ago
      > I think its quite likely that without the media storm, we would have put it down as a really bad flu, once in a quarter century, and got on with life. Last time Sweden's death rate was this high was during their 1993 Flu pandemic (an event which is entirely forgotten). [1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23593222 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23593222

Combination of disinformation, “entitle-ism”, denial, and money.

The Hacker News crowd tends to be pretty well off, so I imagine it’s that classic Upton Sinclair quote: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

ghaff 6y ago

You don't need to be denialist to think that it may be appropriate to get back to delayed medical procedures.

doliveira 6y ago
I assume emergency procedures are still being done.
- ghaff 6y ago
  I'm not sure what that statement has to do with mine. Many medical procedures/visits that don't need to happen right now should nonetheless not be postponed indefinitely. Dental cleaning is certainly one of those. Others are operations to correct chronic pain or to forestall a future emergency. Now, you're certainly welcome to think that we should continue pushing those kind of visits/procedures out indefinitely but health officials in most places disagree.I'm being quite conservative in general but I have gone back to the dentist since they reopened.

insickness 6y ago

Sounds like your definition of denialism is anyone who wants to end the quarantine faster than you do--or at all.

doliveira 6y ago
No, my definition of denialism is someone who 'till this day is still defending the "it's just the flu" meme, just in a little more sophisticated package.
- insickness 6y ago
  No where in these comments did anyone say "it's just the flu" or anything like that. You're straw-manning.
  - jhayward 6y ago
    > I think its quite likely that without the media storm, we would have put it down as a really bad flu, once in a quarter century, and got on with life. Last time Sweden's death rate was this high was during their 1993 Flu pandemic (an event which is entirely forgotten). [1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23593222 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23593222