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Superinsulated houses are in practice a fad. Build as usual just with thick polystyrene insulation (afaik not recyclable) on the facade vulnerable to moisture w

by rini17 6y ago

Superinsulated houses are in practice a fad. Build as usual just with thick polystyrene insulation (afaik not recyclable) on the facade vulnerable to moisture when the surface is punctured (possible with a fingernail). It also requires air recirculation which is too prone to moisture.

tpm 6y ago
Use mineral wool instead of polystyrene, also for fire safety. Anyway, nearly zero-energy buildings are now mandated for all new buildings in the EU, so hardly a fad.
- rini17 6y ago
  I am living in the EU and writing from personal experience. Fad is fad even if it makes it into law. Mineral wool has other disadvantages. But we digress, I am firmly convinced that such narrow focus on energy efficiency of buildings to the detriment of other things is exactly the "affluent" technological solution the paper is critical about.
  - tpm 6y ago
    I understand that, but also think what makes it a not-fad is that EU does not have a lot of its own energy sources and winters can be hard. So to me it makes sense to try to be as energy efficient as possible and also not send a lot of money to e.g. Russia if it's avoidable. I also understand that constructing low-energy buildings is much harder than the standard ones. But I fully believe that science and engineering, when given such task, can master that, given enough time.
    - rini17 6y ago
      It's not so hard, but EU is so far removed from practice that it can't set up the incentives right. There's a parallel with EU's policy on biomass energy that ended up (partially) driving deforestation here in Slovakia.
makomk 6y ago
The push for greener homes produces living environments which are just fragile, full stop. For example, they're 100% reliant on grid electricity for heating, ventilation, cooking, etc whereas older and less efficient homes usually aren't. This is happening at the same time as there's a push to loosen up on grid robustness in the name of greener electricity. That does not seem like a good combination.

by rini17 6y ago

tpm 6y ago

Use mineral wool instead of polystyrene, also for fire safety. Anyway, nearly zero-energy buildings are now mandated for all new buildings in the EU, so hardly a fad.

rini17 6y ago
I am living in the EU and writing from personal experience. Fad is fad even if it makes it into law. Mineral wool has other disadvantages. But we digress, I am firmly convinced that such narrow focus on energy efficiency of buildings to the detriment of other things is exactly the "affluent" technological solution the paper is critical about.
- tpm 6y ago
  I understand that, but also think what makes it a not-fad is that EU does not have a lot of its own energy sources and winters can be hard. So to me it makes sense to try to be as energy efficient as possible and also not send a lot of money to e.g. Russia if it's avoidable. I also understand that constructing low-energy buildings is much harder than the standard ones. But I fully believe that science and engineering, when given such task, can master that, given enough time.
  - rini17 6y ago
    It's not so hard, but EU is so far removed from practice that it can't set up the incentives right. There's a parallel with EU's policy on biomass energy that ended up (partially) driving deforestation here in Slovakia.

makomk 6y ago

The push for greener homes produces living environments which are just fragile, full stop. For example, they're 100% reliant on grid electricity for heating, ventilation, cooking, etc whereas older and less efficient homes usually aren't. This is happening at the same time as there's a push to loosen up on grid robustness in the name of greener electricity. That does not seem like a good combination.