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HFP 1.6 does not solve the problem. Surprisingly, there is no solution [1]. HFP 1.6 supports "wide band speech with the mSBC codec," but this sounds terrible co

by sjy 6y ago

HFP 1.6 does not solve the problem. Surprisingly, there is no solution [1]. HFP 1.6 supports "wide band speech with the mSBC codec," but this sounds terrible compared to the CD quality sound you get from the unidirectional A2DP profile. Some OSes automatically toggle from A2DP to HSP during a phone call (eg. the "auto_switch" option of PulseAudio's module-bluetooth-policy), but you can't use both profiles at the same time. [1] https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/duplex-high-quality-audio-for-bluetooth https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/duplex-high-quality-audi... This is why the wireless ModMic [2] talks about Bluetooth codecs but actually requires a custom USB wireless receiver. [2] https://antlionaudio.com/blogs/news/introducing-modmic-wireless https://antlionaudio.com/blogs/news/introducing-modmic-wirel...

makomk 6y ago
Yeah. It's possible that Bluetooth LE Audio could improve this, we'll see once they finally get around to releasing the specs. It certainly sounds like it's designed to support bidirectional audio links without the stupid HSP/HFP divide of classic Bluetooth. (There's more mainstream demand for this feature now due to things like voice assistants.)
- nobrains 6y ago
  What about dedicated Bluetooth headsets for phones, like plantronics? Aren't they supposed to work bidirectional with high quality audio? Or do they also use the standard Bluetooth profiles/protocols?
  - makomk 6y ago
    Bluetooth headsets like the ones Plantronics make are designed for making phone calls, and the limitations of the standard Bluetooth headset protocol weren't a problem for that because standard phone lines were monoaural with the exact same frequency response and bit depth limits so you weren't losing anything extra. The trouble is that people want to use Bluetooth audio for things like gaming, video conferencing, using voice assistants whilst playing music etc which have much higher quality audio. Also, phone calls themselves are slowly improving too with things like HD Voice.

by sjy 6y ago

makomk 6y ago

Yeah. It's possible that Bluetooth LE Audio could improve this, we'll see once they finally get around to releasing the specs. It certainly sounds like it's designed to support bidirectional audio links without the stupid HSP/HFP divide of classic Bluetooth. (There's more mainstream demand for this feature now due to things like voice assistants.)

nobrains 6y ago
What about dedicated Bluetooth headsets for phones, like plantronics? Aren't they supposed to work bidirectional with high quality audio? Or do they also use the standard Bluetooth profiles/protocols?
- makomk 6y ago
  Bluetooth headsets like the ones Plantronics make are designed for making phone calls, and the limitations of the standard Bluetooth headset protocol weren't a problem for that because standard phone lines were monoaural with the exact same frequency response and bit depth limits so you weren't losing anything extra. The trouble is that people want to use Bluetooth audio for things like gaming, video conferencing, using voice assistants whilst playing music etc which have much higher quality audio. Also, phone calls themselves are slowly improving too with things like HD Voice.