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For anyone else wondering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDBaseT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDBaseT > HDBaseT, promoted and advanced by the HDBaseT Alliance,

For anyone else wondering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDBaseT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDBaseT > HDBaseT, promoted and advanced by the HDBaseT Alliance, is a consumer electronic (CE) and commercial connectivity standard for transmission of uncompressed high-definition video (HD), audio, power, home networking, Ethernet, USB, and some control signals, over a common category cable (Cat5e or above) using the same 8P8C modular connectors used by Ethernet.

encom 6y ago
Sure it sounds neat, but it also sounds a lot like that xkcd about standards. Also, the 8P8C connector is just godawful. I mean, it's fine for the first 3 days until the clip breaks off. https://xkcd.com/927/ https://xkcd.com/927/
- gruez 6y ago
  >it's fine for the first 3 days until the clip breaks off. Hasn't this been largely fixed by connectors that have a cover over the exposed clip?
- crgwbr 6y ago
  8P8C has the huge advantage of being pretty easy to terminate with some basic, cheap hand tools. I’d hate to try that with a USB-C connector.
  - encom 6y ago
    That's true, with the caveat that cheap crimptools are often terrible, and good ones are surprisingly expensive.
    - snuxoll 6y ago
      Eh, my “cheap” TRENDNet stip+crimp tool does the job just fine. I’m not a heavy user, but I’ve done well over 50 terminations with it and every time I’ve had an issue it’s due to myself doing a shitty job inserting the wires into the connector.
- kayfox 6y ago
  HDBaseT has somewhat consolidated the HDMI over twisted pair market, so you do have one more standard, but it replaces a dozen non-standards in the field.
garaetjjte 6y ago
I'm not convinced for yet another standard. Why not encapsulate in Ethernet?
- kayfox 6y ago
  From what I have been able to gather its 10G Ethernet optimized for unshielded cat5e and a slightly higher line rate.
notriddle 6y ago
That sounds really, really close to USB-C.

encom 6y ago

Sure it sounds neat, but it also sounds a lot like that xkcd about standards. Also, the 8P8C connector is just godawful. I mean, it's fine for the first 3 days until the clip breaks off. https://xkcd.com/927/ https://xkcd.com/927/

gruez 6y ago
>it's fine for the first 3 days until the clip breaks off. Hasn't this been largely fixed by connectors that have a cover over the exposed clip?
crgwbr 6y ago
8P8C has the huge advantage of being pretty easy to terminate with some basic, cheap hand tools. I’d hate to try that with a USB-C connector.
- encom 6y ago
  That's true, with the caveat that cheap crimptools are often terrible, and good ones are surprisingly expensive.
  - snuxoll 6y ago
    Eh, my “cheap” TRENDNet stip+crimp tool does the job just fine. I’m not a heavy user, but I’ve done well over 50 terminations with it and every time I’ve had an issue it’s due to myself doing a shitty job inserting the wires into the connector.
kayfox 6y ago
HDBaseT has somewhat consolidated the HDMI over twisted pair market, so you do have one more standard, but it replaces a dozen non-standards in the field.

garaetjjte 6y ago

I'm not convinced for yet another standard. Why not encapsulate in Ethernet?

kayfox 6y ago
From what I have been able to gather its 10G Ethernet optimized for unshielded cat5e and a slightly higher line rate.

notriddle 6y ago

That sounds really, really close to USB-C.