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I agree, wireless is overrated in “desktop” situations. One solution that I hope more monitor manufacturers would follow is the recent Dell “hub” monitors with
by sandstrom 6y ago
I agree, wireless is overrated in “desktop” situations.
One solution that I hope more monitor manufacturers would follow is the recent Dell “hub” monitors with built-in Ethernet (RJ-45), USB-C, downstream power, USB-A, etc.
https://www.dell.com/lt/business/p/dell-u2421he-monitor/pd https://www.dell.com/lt/business/p/dell-u2421he-monitor/pd
Only one cable to connect.
- culturestate 6y agoApple has been doing this since the advent of Thunderbolt, and I have to believe it was one of the reasons they wanted it and then pushed toward USB-C. With MiniDP and MagSafe it was nice but clunky; with USB-C and USB PD it’s great. I know some people miss the old clicky docks, but I agree with you that the monitor + single cable is a really good solution.
- dmos62 6y agoI'd take a simple monitor and an external hub, in place of a monitor+hub integration, any day of the week. We put two things one inside the other and call it progress, but that's less maintainable, sometimes less portable, more expensive, and, most importantly, less modular.
- ztjio 6y agoMore wires more mess more ugly, not everyone has the same priorities.
- smichel17 6y agoIsn't it the same number of wires, since you still need to run a usb cable from the computer to the monitor? So then really all you get is not needing a separate box for the hub. That's admittedly nice -- I have a Dell monitor with usb ports and I use it, mostly because I'm not going to buy a standalone hub when I don't need it -- but if the monitor had a way to mount the external hub on the back, I think that would be the best of both worlds.
- frosted-flakes 6y agoOne cable rather than two. Some monitors have integrated USB hubs, but you need to connect a separate USB-A to USB-B cable, in addition to HDMI/DVI/VGA. Newer, high-end monitors will transmit video and USB over a single USB-C cable, as well as power in the other direction (to charge a laptop).
- smichel17 6y agoInteresting. It basically turns your monitor into a docking station. I could imagine adding an eGPU (if that doesn't already exist), too. Personally I prefer modular components that I can swap out and upgrade separately, but I can see the appeal.
- JshWright 6y agoUSB and video can share the same cable.
- wolrah 6y agoAttach the hub to your monitor's VESA mount points and you gain a lot of long-term flexibility at the cost of a single short wire that'll be hidden behind your monitor. Otherwise functionally identical to an integrated hub/monitor, but you can upgrade or replace the individual components on their own schedule. A good monitor can last through generations of computer hardware, it doesn't make sense to combine directly with other components that have much shorter lifespans.
- transfire 6y agoI wish something like HDBaseT would catch on.
- moreati 6y agoFor anyone else wondering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDBaseT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDBaseT > HDBaseT, promoted and advanced by the HDBaseT Alliance, is a consumer electronic (CE) and commercial connectivity standard for transmission of uncompressed high-definition video (HD), audio, power, home networking, Ethernet, USB, and some control signals, over a common category cable (Cat5e or above) using the same 8P8C modular connectors used by Ethernet.
- encom 6y agoSure it sounds neat, but it also sounds a lot like that xkcd about standards. Also, the 8P8C connector is just godawful. I mean, it's fine for the first 3 days until the clip breaks off. https://xkcd.com/927/ https://xkcd.com/927/
- gruez 6y ago>it's fine for the first 3 days until the clip breaks off. Hasn't this been largely fixed by connectors that have a cover over the exposed clip?
- crgwbr 6y ago8P8C has the huge advantage of being pretty easy to terminate with some basic, cheap hand tools. I’d hate to try that with a USB-C connector.
- encom 6y agoThat's true, with the caveat that cheap crimptools are often terrible, and good ones are surprisingly expensive.
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- fireattack 6y agoHow does it transfer all these signals to the computer? Via DP?
- ink_13 6y agoVia USB-C.
- jonathanlydall 6y agoDP over USB-C. I currently use a Dell WD15 with my Dell laptop and I love it. Only single cable to plug in which drives my wired lan, 2 screens, power, mouse and keyboard. This monitor with it essentially built in looks great, would remove all the following from my desk: - the dock - the power brick for the dock - One of the DP cables - one of the screen USB cables
- fireattack 6y agoYeah it sounds like an ideal setup for laptop!
- walshemj 6y agoIts always struck me as strange that mb's targeted at HDET have wifi at all - better DAC's for audio and 10g networking make more sense.
- bluedino 6y agoDid this for years with my ThunderBolt display, and have been doing it since 2015 with my LG 4K display. The only bad thing is that because the LG is USB-C and not TB3, I only get USB 2.0 speeds out of it. I have a pair of USB-C to USB-A adapters that let me connect ethernet and my phone or other device to charge.
- jsmith45 6y agoHonestly for a laptop I'd prefer the following setup: An E-GPU enclosure, which is also the power supply, has an ethernet port, and provides some USB ports for any devices you always leave at the desk. You connect it to the laptop with a single thunderbolt power-delivery type-c cable. The monitor(s) are connected to the enclosure with type-c displayport with power delivery. Thus you have only a max of two cables connected to the wall: power cable for E-GPU dock and ethernet. This is fairly similar to that monitor concept except that the monitors docking station is broken out as a separate component.