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> I object to the term SSL. It is a deep insult to my culture. We should rename it because of that. Who are you to question my being offended? Don't do this. Y
by vore 6y ago
> I object to the term SSL. It is a deep insult to my culture. We should rename it because of that. Who are you to question my being offended?
Don't do this. You and I both know this is just an example you're pulling out to take a controversial stance and doing a disservice to the people voicing their earnest concerns. You can feel free to disagree with them, but arguing like this is just... mean-spirited.
- patrick5415 6y agoDon’t do this. You’re pretending to know what the op is thinking, aside from what they actually said.
- vore 6y agoYou can't possibly be trying to argue that the OP actually does find the term "SSL" as abhorrent as some of the terms being considered, such as "master/slave", are you? That the OP legitimately feels this way and is not just pulling something out of their behind for the sake of arguing disingenuously?
- BolexNOLA 6y agoGod I feel like I’m on reddit with nonsense comments like theirs. It’s baffling how they can’t see why master/slave MIGHT be an issue and compare it arbitrary offenses.
- Ghjklov 6y agoDo you not find it concerning that OpenSSL indirectly promotes a Arizona street gang[0]? 0 - https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=south%20side%20locos https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=south%20side... "Mind you, they are still a very dangerous organized street gang with crimes ranging from Assault, Armed Robbery, & Murder. Warning: Avoid S Chandler Blvd, & anywhere from west of Cooper Rd & 8th Avenue, between S Mesa Dr at night." This is INSANE. They have killed people. OpenSSL has blood on their hands.
- vore 6y agoIs it a common understanding SSL means South Side Locos? No, absolutely not. Is it a common understanding master/slave means, well, enslavement? Yes, absolutely.
- Ghjklov 6y agoIf you do not stand with the people of Arizona who have been terrorized by the SSL(South Side Locos), how do I take seriously that you stand with the people who have been affected by slavery across time in history? Is this all for show then?
- vore 6y agoThis is a complete non sequitur to what I said.
- Ghjklov 6y agoWhy does it matter if SSL is commonly understood to reference the South Side Locos? Clearly people have been affected negatively by them. If you aren't going to stand up for them, how do we believe you really stand for black people and others who have been enslaved? Before modern times, slave was just a common word to define people who had been put under slavery. Back then, you would've scoffed at the idea of censoring away a perfectly acceptable word because "it's not commonly understood to be offensive". That's what I gather from your refusal to recognize SSL as an offensive term referencing the Arizona street gang.
- vore 6y agoStop strawmanning. 1. I'm calling out people who are making disingenuous arguments for the sake of argument ("The term SSL is a deep insult to my culture.") Are you actually upset by "SSL" referring to an Arizona street gang? If so, I'm sorry to hear that, but: 2. I, personally, put my bar at "is it a common understanding that this term widely means bad shit?" If you brought this to me, I would say: sorry, I understand, but I don't think this is widely understood to mean "South Side Locos". If this makes me terrible in your eyes, then so be it. But I don't think that's what you're angling for with this line of argument.