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If you pay with a credit card. And the merchant can dispute your dispute. And it would be pretty annoying to have to file a chargeback every time you needed a r

If you pay with a credit card. And the merchant can dispute your dispute. And it would be pretty annoying to have to file a chargeback every time you needed a refund. Last time I did it, I had to fill out a bunch of paperwork and send it to my credit card company. > I honestly don’t understand how or why anybody is defending Apple’s 30% cut for all cases. I'm not. I think 30% is overly high. But simultaneously I don't find the original complaint all that convincing.

bradgessler 6y ago
At least disputing it is an option. Apple’s terms don’t really allow for disputing; “ALL SALES ARE FINAL”. I bank with Chase, who makes disputing a charge take a few minutes from their website.
- nodamage 6y ago
  As I said in my other comment, disputes are meant for unauthorized charges. If you actually purchased and received a product and you wanted a refund just because you didn't like it, you might not actually win a dispute under those circumstances. > Apple’s terms don’t really allow for disputing; “ALL SALES ARE FINAL”. Disputing would be unnecessary under the scenario Apple suggested because there would be a free trial.
  - bradgessler 6y ago
    It’s easy to dispute in earnest that the app didn’t deliver the functionality it claimed to deliver on the description. Apple doesn’t offer free trials for non-subscription purchases.
    - nodamage 6y ago
      > It’s easy to dispute in earnest that the app didn’t deliver the functionality it claimed to deliver on the description. Now you're no longer talking about a money back guarantee. Come on, the idea that a credit card chargeback is a valid alternative to having a free trial is ridiculous. > Apple doesn’t offer free trials for non-subscription purchases. Wrong. Non-subscription apps may offer a free time-based trial period before presenting a full unlock option by setting up a Non-Consumable IAP item at Price Tier 0 that follows the naming convention: “XX-day Trial.”

bradgessler 6y ago

At least disputing it is an option. Apple’s terms don’t really allow for disputing; “ALL SALES ARE FINAL”. I bank with Chase, who makes disputing a charge take a few minutes from their website.

nodamage 6y ago
As I said in my other comment, disputes are meant for unauthorized charges. If you actually purchased and received a product and you wanted a refund just because you didn't like it, you might not actually win a dispute under those circumstances. > Apple’s terms don’t really allow for disputing; “ALL SALES ARE FINAL”. Disputing would be unnecessary under the scenario Apple suggested because there would be a free trial.
- bradgessler 6y ago
  It’s easy to dispute in earnest that the app didn’t deliver the functionality it claimed to deliver on the description. Apple doesn’t offer free trials for non-subscription purchases.
  - nodamage 6y ago
    > It’s easy to dispute in earnest that the app didn’t deliver the functionality it claimed to deliver on the description. Now you're no longer talking about a money back guarantee. Come on, the idea that a credit card chargeback is a valid alternative to having a free trial is ridiculous. > Apple doesn’t offer free trials for non-subscription purchases. Wrong. Non-subscription apps may offer a free time-based trial period before presenting a full unlock option by setting up a Non-Consumable IAP item at Price Tier 0 that follows the naming convention: “XX-day Trial.”