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Both those prices seem excessive.
by Kye 6y ago
Both those prices seem excessive.
- ovi256 6y agoThe best part of economic freedom is that one is free to start a manufacturer delivering a cheaper whatever one is complaining is too expensive!
- anchpop 6y agoIt's possible the price is too high, but the reason it has that price $35/bottle is the minimum required to sustainably produce it. It's well accepted in economics that price of manufacture is not necessarily the societally optimal price [0]. If this is the case, what needs to be done is government subsidization, and no individual person can just start a company and do it themselves. Also, the idea that everyone is free to start manufacturing insulin ignores the billions of dollars of capital that is required to create a FDA-compliant insulin production plant, which almost no one on earth has access to. [0]: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/externality.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/externality.asp
- arexxbifs 6y ago"Not only are the big three insulin manufacturers financially opposed to biosimilars entering the market, they’ve actively taken legal steps to prevent it." https://beyondtype1.org/how-much-does-it-cost-to-produce-insulin/ https://beyondtype1.org/how-much-does-it-cost-to-produce-ins...
- HeadsUpHigh 6y agoNot with the way the FDA has a pile of rules and regulations that combined have the unintended effect of blocking the market. Drugs of all kinds are not in a market state of economic freedom. There are pros and cons of the situation, but at least please stop pretending that it's a free market.
- inetsee 6y agoThese prices are not high. I went through a period when I had no health insurance, and I had to rely on generic insulin, the kind you can buy at Walmart for $25 a vial. I have insurance now and the insulin I take now costs me a co-pay of $100 a vial. Paying $35 a vial without insurance is not bad at all.
- messe 6y agoIt's a hell of a lot higher than most developed nations. Here in Ireland, as far as I'm aware, it's free thanks to the long term illness scheme. (We have both public and private healthcare available)
- wincy 6y agoJust because you never see the cost, doesn’t mean it costs “nothing”.
- messe 6y agoSure, but to someone who's on unemployment benefits. It's free. To someone who's earning a little bit more than that, it's free. To someone who is earning enough to pay tax, they're paying a tiny amount. To someone who's earning more than 30K€, they're paying a few grand in taxes (which covers other public services also). To someone who's earning 60k€ they're paying even more. But the important thing is that the person who's earning fuck-all can still afford it, because it costs nothing to them.
- inetsee 6y agoI am aware that insulin costs a lot less in other countries. I have read the stories of Americans going to Canada to buy insulin. I have also read the stories of diabetics in the United States who died because they tried to make their insulin last longer by rationing their dose. If I didn't have insurance my insulin would cost me either $245 (fast-acting) or $700 (basal) a vial. I was just pointing out that getting insulin for $35 a vial in the United States is a very good deal.
- messe 6y ago> I was just pointing out that getting insulin for $35 a vial in the United States is a very good deal. That may very well be the case. But for someone paying 0% tax in Ireland, 0€ on insulin is an even better deal.
- dogma1138 6y agoThe NHS (how much it pays not the patient) annual costs are about £400 so it doesn’t seem excessive