The way you frame the third choice as "and/or fat" is disingenuous and undermines the whole comment. Yes, vegetables are less calories dense. That doesn't mea

The way you frame the third choice as "and/or fat" is disingenuous and undermines the whole comment. Yes, vegetables are less calories dense. That doesn't mean meat/cheese/bacon have to be eaten. Just an easy example, avocado's are extremely calorie dense, and yes this means fat. The issue I have is that you just categorize meat, cheese and fat together as if the only way to get fat is via those items, or as if fat itself were unhealthy. The second is just a myth, the first is a myth the person you are responding to is directly opposing. It's not a great surprise that a diet restricting one of the three food macros will lean heavily on the other two groups.