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LDL is correlated but not causative and it's been discovered that HDL is a much better indicator. Take a look at this book: https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surp

LDL is correlated but not causative and it's been discovered that HDL is a much better indicator. Take a look at this book: https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624433/ https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/14... It goes into it quite a bit more -- cholesterol is a _terrible_ indicator of overall health. This is well known in the Keto community.

rantwasp 6y ago
when you use LDL, HDL and cholesterol interchangeably this tells me that you don’t know what you’re talking about. Cholesterol itself is part of the lipid membrane of every cell. It’s essential. When people say “high cholesterol” they usually talk about high cholesterol carrying lipo-proteins in the bloodstream. high ldl is definitely a risk factor for CHD
- eebynight 6y ago
  How do you explain what Dave Feldman refers to as the lipid triad which is common in people that are on a low carbohydrate diet? In this case, there is not sufficient evidence that those who have elevated HDL, LDL and low triglycerides have higher rates of cardiovascular disease... https://cholesterolcode.com/a-dialog-on-the-lipid-triad-with-sigma-nutrition-radio/ https://cholesterolcode.com/a-dialog-on-the-lipid-triad-with...
  - rantwasp 6y ago
    not familiar with this fellow but if I had to guess I would say that in some cases ldl-c (volume) is high while ldl-p (count) is low leading the ldl not to cause as much damage as it a high number of particles
- KerryJones 6y ago
  I didn't use them interchangeably...? Did you mean to refer to someone else?
krustyburger 6y ago
And the opposite is well known in the Whole Foods Plant-Based community. I don’t have a horse in this race but appeals to authority when it comes to the science of diet are highly suspect.
- KerryJones 6y ago
  Nah, I used to be on a plant-based diet -- have done quite a bit of research. This is _not_ well known in the community, but sure, a few under-researched people in the group might say that has to do with it.

rantwasp 6y ago

when you use LDL, HDL and cholesterol interchangeably this tells me that you don’t know what you’re talking about. Cholesterol itself is part of the lipid membrane of every cell. It’s essential. When people say “high cholesterol” they usually talk about high cholesterol carrying lipo-proteins in the bloodstream. high ldl is definitely a risk factor for CHD

eebynight 6y ago
How do you explain what Dave Feldman refers to as the lipid triad which is common in people that are on a low carbohydrate diet? In this case, there is not sufficient evidence that those who have elevated HDL, LDL and low triglycerides have higher rates of cardiovascular disease... https://cholesterolcode.com/a-dialog-on-the-lipid-triad-with-sigma-nutrition-radio/ https://cholesterolcode.com/a-dialog-on-the-lipid-triad-with...
- rantwasp 6y ago
  not familiar with this fellow but if I had to guess I would say that in some cases ldl-c (volume) is high while ldl-p (count) is low leading the ldl not to cause as much damage as it a high number of particles
KerryJones 6y ago
I didn't use them interchangeably...? Did you mean to refer to someone else?

krustyburger 6y ago

And the opposite is well known in the Whole Foods Plant-Based community. I don’t have a horse in this race but appeals to authority when it comes to the science of diet are highly suspect.

KerryJones 6y ago
Nah, I used to be on a plant-based diet -- have done quite a bit of research. This is _not_ well known in the community, but sure, a few under-researched people in the group might say that has to do with it.