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China is going rogue again. Cyberattacks against Australia, bullying in South China Sea, border fights against India and so on. We need a unified world approac

by yumraj 6y ago

China is going rogue again. Cyberattacks against Australia, bullying in South China Sea, border fights against India and so on. We need a unified world approach.

nix23 6y ago
Can you please give me a proof that it's China and not someone else...or nothing at all? I always hear cyber-attack's from Russia, North Korea or China, but never from Israel or the US, are they just so bad in covering up or is maybe something else behind it?
- yumraj 6y ago
  Such large scale attacks are organized and effectively weapons. Now, think which country wants to attack Australia and teach it lesson for various noises it has been making against it. Now look at the past history of the said country. There is your evidence.
  - nix23 6y ago
    So that means the next cyber-attack against the US comes from Afghanistan, Iran or Vietnam? That's NOT evidence...could be true or not. PS: But i think your 'evidence' is exactly what people of color have a problem with, especially in the US.
- bawolff 6y ago
  Well tbf, stuxnet & flame are probably the two cyber-attacks that can actually beyond all doubt be called cyber warfare. Most everything else seems more about finding a scapegoat to blame.
  - nix23 6y ago
    Yes your right, i am not saying cyber-warfare does no exist, i just don't see often good point's for the origin of the attack...often its like HAHA we found the timezone of Peking in a file....as if a professional agency is that stupid (well sometimes they are)
- JackFr 6y ago
  > or is maybe something else behind it? What precisely are you saying?
  - nix23 6y ago
    >What precisely are you saying? That you CAN say something, but its not true an never was.
- MattGaiser 6y ago
  Russia, China, and North Korea have no free media to report such things.
  - nix23 6y ago
    Ok you win, since the NSA and the CIA have a complete transparency rule like all the western security services have...it has to be China (or something like that) ;)
    - Knuthtruth 6y ago
      All your replies are arrogant in tone and derogatory to other posters. If you're trying to prove a point you should have to put in as much effort as you are requesting from the others. Provide valid links where the assumptions were wrong and justify your argument. This condescending tone does not suit HN community. I hope someone flags your comments.
      - nix23 6y ago
        You make the allegations so bringing the proof is on your side... To believe everything a state says well THAT is arrogant..one hint? -Chemical weapons in Iraq (many times repeated by 'free' media, with a war at the end and no chem found) And NO i like the HN community exactly because thinking out of the box is normal, just believe what a state like Australia says and the standard 'enemy' is china...that's a dangerous thing. I'm NOT saying it's not true, i just want some proof, otherwise it smells once again foul.
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        Knuthtruth 6y ago
        You just proved me right. Thank you.i don't have any more time for you.
        6y ago
drocer88 6y ago
China attacked U.S. Health and Human Services, hospitals and labs in April: https://www.wltz.com/2020/04/27/foreign-hackers-launch-attacks-against-u-s-government/ https://www.wltz.com/2020/04/27/foreign-hackers-launch-attac... The Chinese aircraft carrier strike force threatened Taiwan : https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11394307/china-warships-taiwan-uss-roosevelt-docked/ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11394307/china-warships-taiwan... . The General Secretary of Central Committee of the Communist Party of China is up to something.

by yumraj 6y ago

China is going rogue again. Cyberattacks against Australia, bullying in South China Sea, border fights against India and so on. We need a unified world approach.

nix23 6y ago

Can you please give me a proof that it's China and not someone else...or nothing at all? I always hear cyber-attack's from Russia, North Korea or China, but never from Israel or the US, are they just so bad in covering up or is maybe something else behind it?

yumraj 6y ago
Such large scale attacks are organized and effectively weapons. Now, think which country wants to attack Australia and teach it lesson for various noises it has been making against it. Now look at the past history of the said country. There is your evidence.
- nix23 6y ago
  So that means the next cyber-attack against the US comes from Afghanistan, Iran or Vietnam? That's NOT evidence...could be true or not. PS: But i think your 'evidence' is exactly what people of color have a problem with, especially in the US.
bawolff 6y ago
Well tbf, stuxnet & flame are probably the two cyber-attacks that can actually beyond all doubt be called cyber warfare. Most everything else seems more about finding a scapegoat to blame.
- nix23 6y ago
  Yes your right, i am not saying cyber-warfare does no exist, i just don't see often good point's for the origin of the attack...often its like HAHA we found the timezone of Peking in a file....as if a professional agency is that stupid (well sometimes they are)
JackFr 6y ago
> or is maybe something else behind it? What precisely are you saying?
- nix23 6y ago
  >What precisely are you saying? That you CAN say something, but its not true an never was.
MattGaiser 6y ago
Russia, China, and North Korea have no free media to report such things.
- nix23 6y ago
  Ok you win, since the NSA and the CIA have a complete transparency rule like all the western security services have...it has to be China (or something like that) ;)
  - Knuthtruth 6y ago
    All your replies are arrogant in tone and derogatory to other posters. If you're trying to prove a point you should have to put in as much effort as you are requesting from the others. Provide valid links where the assumptions were wrong and justify your argument. This condescending tone does not suit HN community. I hope someone flags your comments.
    - nix23 6y ago
      You make the allegations so bringing the proof is on your side... To believe everything a state says well THAT is arrogant..one hint? -Chemical weapons in Iraq (many times repeated by 'free' media, with a war at the end and no chem found) And NO i like the HN community exactly because thinking out of the box is normal, just believe what a state like Australia says and the standard 'enemy' is china...that's a dangerous thing. I'm NOT saying it's not true, i just want some proof, otherwise it smells once again foul.
      - deleted 6y ago
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      - Knuthtruth 6y ago
        You just proved me right. Thank you.i don't have any more time for you.
        6y ago

drocer88 6y ago

China attacked U.S. Health and Human Services, hospitals and labs in April: https://www.wltz.com/2020/04/27/foreign-hackers-launch-attacks-against-u-s-government/ https://www.wltz.com/2020/04/27/foreign-hackers-launch-attac... The Chinese aircraft carrier strike force threatened Taiwan : https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11394307/china-warships-taiwan-uss-roosevelt-docked/ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11394307/china-warships-taiwan... . The General Secretary of Central Committee of the Communist Party of China is up to something.