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DHH has explained that it's not ultimately about the price. There is another factor: divergence of customer billing experience across platforms. Hey has it's ow

DHH has explained that it's not ultimately about the price. There is another factor: divergence of customer billing experience across platforms. Hey has it's own cross-platform billing solution. :shrug:

scarface74 6y ago
In that case. That’s not a hill he should want to die on. It’s just like selling any physical good through a retailer. I pay for Netflix for instance through T-mobile since I get a discount. I pay for Hulu Live TV for myself and my wife differently than I pay for Hulu+Disney+ for my kids. Not having my information across random app developers and having it centralized with Apple is an argument for the App Store. I would much rather have all of my subscriptions in one place. Of course it isn’t worth a 43% premium.
- perfmode 6y ago
  I guess the argument is that Netflix and others are given a pass. As a customer, I agree with you. I am happy to have all of my subscriptions through Apple. I'm content to watch from the sidelines as the moneymen argue for their pieces of the pie. For me, the emerging global civil rights movement is of greater import.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    It’s not just Netflix. It’s the class of apps. Even no name apps like ACloudGuru where you subscribe to get access to training classes do this.
- madeofpalk 6y ago
  The thing is, is that in all those situations, the businesses have a choice. T-Mobile doesn’t go to Netflix and say "you can run your site over our wires to our customers unless you bill through us and give us a cut".
  - scarface74 6y ago
    Neither does a Apple. They are saying you have to provide in app subscriptions as an option, not the only option.
    - madeofpalk 6y ago
      No, they are not giving developers a choice in reality. They’re forcing developers to offer subscriptions on their platforms where they take a 30% cut. That’s not a choice.
      - scarface74 6y ago
        And developers can charge 43% when you buy in app as opposed to outside of the App Store to make up the difference.

scarface74 6y ago

In that case. That’s not a hill he should want to die on. It’s just like selling any physical good through a retailer. I pay for Netflix for instance through T-mobile since I get a discount. I pay for Hulu Live TV for myself and my wife differently than I pay for Hulu+Disney+ for my kids. Not having my information across random app developers and having it centralized with Apple is an argument for the App Store. I would much rather have all of my subscriptions in one place. Of course it isn’t worth a 43% premium.

perfmode 6y ago
I guess the argument is that Netflix and others are given a pass. As a customer, I agree with you. I am happy to have all of my subscriptions through Apple. I'm content to watch from the sidelines as the moneymen argue for their pieces of the pie. For me, the emerging global civil rights movement is of greater import.
- scarface74 6y ago
  It’s not just Netflix. It’s the class of apps. Even no name apps like ACloudGuru where you subscribe to get access to training classes do this.
madeofpalk 6y ago
The thing is, is that in all those situations, the businesses have a choice. T-Mobile doesn’t go to Netflix and say "you can run your site over our wires to our customers unless you bill through us and give us a cut".
- scarface74 6y ago
  Neither does a Apple. They are saying you have to provide in app subscriptions as an option, not the only option.
  - madeofpalk 6y ago
    No, they are not giving developers a choice in reality. They’re forcing developers to offer subscriptions on their platforms where they take a 30% cut. That’s not a choice.
    - scarface74 6y ago
      And developers can charge 43% when you buy in app as opposed to outside of the App Store to make up the difference.