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Well with journalism these days, you either don't know what it is or don't like it. May the news be entirely subscriber funded in a post-UBI world where everyo

Well with journalism these days, you either don't know what it is or don't like it. May the news be entirely subscriber funded in a post-UBI world where everyone can afford to subscribe.

_curious_ 6y ago
And how much do you believe should be the UBI allocation per person for online news subscriptions? Then considering this hypothetical money would come from the government (read: other peoples money) can recipients spend this allotment on whatever news sources or viewpoints they want?
- sukilot 6y ago
  UBI means recipients choose where to spend the money. It's income, not a subsidy.
  - _curious_ 6y ago
    And how is the amount of "income" determined per person - based on what necessary expenses? Should news subscriptions be one of them?
dragonwriter 6y ago
> May the news be entirely subscriber funded in a post-UBI world where everyone can afford to subscribe Probably not. UBI doesn’t end the appeal of “free” and doesn't change that the people trying to sell you stuff have a motive to spend money disguising efforts to get you to buy it as other things, like “free" news services. The advertising targets can afford to pay for the news now, because they are paying for it. But they still pay for it indirectly, and UBI doesn't change the systems which feed into that.
- Ericson2314 6y ago
  I know it's hard to reduce the purchasing power of advertisers, but w e can produce their monopsony power by making subscription viable again.
bobthepanda 6y ago
People already complain about how media outlets won't write articles critical of their patrons, and now we want to make the problem worse by making everybody a patron? This sounds like a great way to turn all media into tepid listicles.
- Ericson2314 6y ago
  I'm, it makes the problem better because the patronage cancels out. The problem was never patronage in the absolute.

Well with journalism these days, you either don't know what it is or don't like it. May the news be entirely subscriber funded in a post-UBI world where everyone can afford to subscribe.

_curious_ 6y ago

And how much do you believe should be the UBI allocation per person for online news subscriptions? Then considering this hypothetical money would come from the government (read: other peoples money) can recipients spend this allotment on whatever news sources or viewpoints they want?

sukilot 6y ago
UBI means recipients choose where to spend the money. It's income, not a subsidy.
- _curious_ 6y ago
  And how is the amount of "income" determined per person - based on what necessary expenses? Should news subscriptions be one of them?

dragonwriter 6y ago

> May the news be entirely subscriber funded in a post-UBI world where everyone can afford to subscribe Probably not. UBI doesn’t end the appeal of “free” and doesn't change that the people trying to sell you stuff have a motive to spend money disguising efforts to get you to buy it as other things, like “free" news services. The advertising targets can afford to pay for the news now, because they are paying for it. But they still pay for it indirectly, and UBI doesn't change the systems which feed into that.

Ericson2314 6y ago
I know it's hard to reduce the purchasing power of advertisers, but w e can produce their monopsony power by making subscription viable again.

bobthepanda 6y ago

People already complain about how media outlets won't write articles critical of their patrons, and now we want to make the problem worse by making everybody a patron? This sounds like a great way to turn all media into tepid listicles.

Ericson2314 6y ago
I'm, it makes the problem better because the patronage cancels out. The problem was never patronage in the absolute.