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Does Apple actually invests into laptop/desktop development? They are usually couple of years behind competition (DDR3, Sky Lake chips). While their ARM chips a

by rewoi 6y ago

Does Apple actually invests into laptop/desktop development? They are usually couple of years behind competition (DDR3, Sky Lake chips). While their ARM chips are heavily developed. I think they decided long time ago that ARM is good enough, and are waiting for train to stop to change the engine. It is not about Intel quality, but about saving money and independence. AMD is not even considered as an alternative...

kyriakos 6y ago
People seem to be buying them anyway. If we consider Form over function could also be playing a role here, Apple's obsession with making their notebooks thinner ditching intel will help a lot with that cause they can at least keep the same battery life with a smaller battery.
- tonyedgecombe 6y ago
  Apple’s latest MacBook Pro is thicker than the previous model.
  - kyriakos 6y ago
    That could also be part of the reason they are switching platforms. Likely not the primary one.
    - tonyedgecombe 6y ago
      Or it could be an indication that they don't have an "obsession with making their notebooks thinner"
_ph_ 6y ago
I do think they actually invest significantly into laptop/desktop development. If you look at the teardowns at iFixit, they are pieces engineering art. No other manufacturer offers that nicely designed devices. Just think of the new Mac Pro having no internal cabeling, everything, including the extra power supply for the graphics cards, is on the motherboard. But of course, one can (and I do) disagree with some of their design choices, like non-exchangeable SSD and using far too much glue in the designs.
foldr 6y ago
LDDR3 was used for power efficiency. Apple generally only updates to newer generation CPUs when (a) Intel can supply enough and (b) there's a significant performance or power efficiency improvement. As far as I can tell they make the decisions on engineering grounds.
asjw 6y ago
Apple laptops have become a joke if you have serious needs and want to maximize your ROI on hardware If you are not dying of thirst in middle of the desert, you wouldn't buy a 60 dollar water bottle Unless you'd buy it anyway to show you can
- nojito 6y ago
  >Apple laptops have become a joke if you have serious needs and want to maximize your ROI on hardware The fact that they hold their value so well disproves that assumption.
  - chinesempire 6y ago
    But they don't It's a myth

by rewoi 6y ago

kyriakos 6y ago

People seem to be buying them anyway. If we consider Form over function could also be playing a role here, Apple's obsession with making their notebooks thinner ditching intel will help a lot with that cause they can at least keep the same battery life with a smaller battery.

tonyedgecombe 6y ago
Apple’s latest MacBook Pro is thicker than the previous model.
- kyriakos 6y ago
  That could also be part of the reason they are switching platforms. Likely not the primary one.
  - tonyedgecombe 6y ago
    Or it could be an indication that they don't have an "obsession with making their notebooks thinner"

_ph_ 6y ago

I do think they actually invest significantly into laptop/desktop development. If you look at the teardowns at iFixit, they are pieces engineering art. No other manufacturer offers that nicely designed devices. Just think of the new Mac Pro having no internal cabeling, everything, including the extra power supply for the graphics cards, is on the motherboard. But of course, one can (and I do) disagree with some of their design choices, like non-exchangeable SSD and using far too much glue in the designs.

foldr 6y ago

LDDR3 was used for power efficiency. Apple generally only updates to newer generation CPUs when (a) Intel can supply enough and (b) there's a significant performance or power efficiency improvement. As far as I can tell they make the decisions on engineering grounds.

asjw 6y ago

Apple laptops have become a joke if you have serious needs and want to maximize your ROI on hardware If you are not dying of thirst in middle of the desert, you wouldn't buy a 60 dollar water bottle Unless you'd buy it anyway to show you can

nojito 6y ago
>Apple laptops have become a joke if you have serious needs and want to maximize your ROI on hardware The fact that they hold their value so well disproves that assumption.
- chinesempire 6y ago
  But they don't It's a myth