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PE is a bad example case. Infrequent, with random team assignments, playing random new sports and activities each class is obviously and definitely skewed towar

PE is a bad example case. Infrequent, with random team assignments, playing random new sports and activities each class is obviously and definitely skewed towards those who are predisposed to coordination and teamwork traits. What the parent, and I in another comment are talking about is team sports with the same team, playing the same sport on a regular basis. Not many people are good at "red scooter dodge chicken" after 5 minutes of it. But playing the same thing day in, day out for a while (practice) makes you better at it. You start noticing you're improving, your teammates may not out you in the starting rotation, but they're going to start bonding with you because of proximity and the shared feeling of progress. You don't need to have the same competitive zeal as the top performers, but you need to want to be part of the group. I never saw anyone get ostracized in a team unless they continually refused to be part of it.

silveroriole 6y ago
So, what are you going to do with the kids who don’t want to be a part of it and will simply never enjoy the experience of whiffing a ball every time? (Yes, it really is possible not to improve - see the other commenter who is on the spectrum, or anyone with dyspraxia, etc). Will you just say they deserve what they get? We’re presumably still talking about a situation where they’re forced to take part.
pjc50 6y ago
> never saw anyone get ostracized in a team unless they continually refused to be part of it. This is the "I never see sexual harassment so it doesn't happen" argument applied to childhood bullying. All education suffers from trying to motivate kids to do something voluntarily when really it isn't, but only in team sports is this enforced against the body. (How well do schools handle gender mixed sport these days, or is there a strict partition still?)

silveroriole 6y ago

So, what are you going to do with the kids who don’t want to be a part of it and will simply never enjoy the experience of whiffing a ball every time? (Yes, it really is possible not to improve - see the other commenter who is on the spectrum, or anyone with dyspraxia, etc). Will you just say they deserve what they get? We’re presumably still talking about a situation where they’re forced to take part.

pjc50 6y ago

> never saw anyone get ostracized in a team unless they continually refused to be part of it. This is the "I never see sexual harassment so it doesn't happen" argument applied to childhood bullying. All education suffers from trying to motivate kids to do something voluntarily when really it isn't, but only in team sports is this enforced against the body. (How well do schools handle gender mixed sport these days, or is there a strict partition still?)