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Jira alternatives (ultimate break down) – not biased

14 points by spiderjako22 6y ago

sixhobbits 6y ago
"not biased" Lists their tool as #1 alternative.
- donedealomg 6y ago
  This is the trend today in Online Marketing. You say the opposite of what you are doing and shove it into readers their faces without shame. Mission accomplished.
- spiderjako22 6y ago
  I see your point. But I don't really see the problem with that. I haven't said that #1 is the best. And I haven't also said that Codegiant is better than Jira. If you actually read through the article you'll see that there's nothing biased about it.
  - robjan 6y ago
    Even still, the ordering is a form of bias. It's impossible for someone with a conflict of interest to say they are unbiased.
    - spiderjako22 6y ago
      You're right - in that regard, we may be biased.
redis_mlc 6y ago
Pro tip: you can create a blue and white CSS theme for just about any ticket system, and nobody would know it wasn't JIRA. For example, just install Bugzilla and add 20 lines of CSS. Even the style on the Bugzilla homepage looks good to me: https://www.bugzilla.org/ https://www.bugzilla.org/
DodgyEggplant 6y ago
Would say that Jira is oriented to the bureaucrats, the people that gain management and control by moving tickets. The means become the goals, everything is chopped to meaningless small tasks and the language dictates the vision and the capabilities. Negative organisational effect. So better to find an alternatives and avoid Jira if you can.
- spiderjako22 6y ago
  Yes, it highly depends on your needs
fearface 6y ago
Why doesn’t it include Azure Devops?
nxpnsv 6y ago
I knew it was biased just reading the title. Never heard of codegigant before.
- spiderjako22 6y ago
  Sorry to hear that it made you think it's biased. As someone working at Codegiant, my is to grow my career/business (like many of you do) that's why I decided to put it on the #1 place - it doesn't mean it's the best in any shape or form. And I haven't said anywhere throughout the article that Codegiant or any other listed tool is better than Jira.
  - nxpnsv 6y ago
    Just don’t call it unbiased & it wouldn’t ring weird. Also listing codegiant first is obvious bias. Useful reading would be comparing your tool to other tools, I’d know where you argue from, and it’d help me figure out your products strength. The way it stands it feels like poorly masked marketing. Possibly that’s not what your going for, but that was my experience.
    - spiderjako22 6y ago
      Got it. Thanks for sharing your insights. Yea, my main intentions were to compare Jira to other tools, as you can probably tell by the headline. Regarding my tool and all of the rest, I've dedicated a pros & cons to each tool section that can hopefully make the strengths and weaknesses of each software clear. But anyway, thanks for sharing your feedback - will make sure future articles don't look biased even though my initial intentions weren't such.
ratiolat 6y ago
Redmine (redmine.org) seems to be missing from the list
- spiderjako22 6y ago
  That's true - I'll include it with my next update
- smartbit 6y ago
  Gitlab issue tracker [0] is missing too. A single kanban board comes with the free edition, more advanced issue features [1] are part of the paid versions. [0] https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/issues/ https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/issues/ [1] https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/self-managed/feature-comparison/ https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/self-managed/feature-compar...
BerislavLopac 6y ago
No ClubHouse? https://clubhouse.io/ https://clubhouse.io/
- spiderjako22 6y ago
  I'll have to update it for sure, there are still some more alternatives to be added
kevsim 6y ago
My startup is also working on alternative to Jira for anyone interested: https://kitemaker.co https://kitemaker.co It's really fast and tons of hotkeys and keyboard navigation. No need to use the mouse at all if you don't want to.
- spiderjako22 6y ago
  Hey, I'd be glad to include your tool in the list during my next update.
  - kevsim 6y ago
    That’d be great!
- gshdg 6y ago
  Looks interesting but there’s zero info on your site (at least in mobile) about its features. It looks a lot like Trello from the screenshots. How does it differ?
  - deleted 6y ago
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  - kevsim 6y ago
    Yeah, our landing page admittedly needs some love. Actually top of our list right now. And the board does look like Trello but so do most boards (we also have a list view of the issues if you prefer that but it's new so no screenshot on the site just yet). In terms of differentiating features from Trello: - we have more structure. We have themes (like Jira epics) and a roadmap view for giving a big picture overview of what's going on. Also software development specific features like effort and impact estimation (small, medium and large aka t-shirt sizes) - the aforementioned hotkeys and key nav. We love using Superhuman for email and we put a lot of love into making the product keyboard friendly - our issues are richer than Trello cards. Our document editor feels a lot like Notion documents. We also have threaded comments - our integrations are getting better all the time. You can mention issues from GitHub and see the commit messages in Kitemaker, you can set up automation rules to automatically move issues in the board. You can embed Figma designs and we're about to launch a Slack integration. And more integrations in the pipeline It's still a young product, but we're adding features every week and onboarding more and more teams. If people are using Trello or GitHub issues, they can use our importer and try it out quickly with their own data. We'd love to hear any feedback you might have.
gtt 6y ago
What about self-hosted jira alternatives?
- johnx123-up 6y ago
  I've replied in another thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23584712 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23584712

14 points by spiderjako22 6y ago

sixhobbits 6y ago

"not biased" Lists their tool as #1 alternative.

donedealomg 6y ago
This is the trend today in Online Marketing. You say the opposite of what you are doing and shove it into readers their faces without shame. Mission accomplished.
spiderjako22 6y ago
I see your point. But I don't really see the problem with that. I haven't said that #1 is the best. And I haven't also said that Codegiant is better than Jira. If you actually read through the article you'll see that there's nothing biased about it.
- robjan 6y ago
  Even still, the ordering is a form of bias. It's impossible for someone with a conflict of interest to say they are unbiased.
  - spiderjako22 6y ago
    You're right - in that regard, we may be biased.

redis_mlc 6y ago

Pro tip: you can create a blue and white CSS theme for just about any ticket system, and nobody would know it wasn't JIRA. For example, just install Bugzilla and add 20 lines of CSS. Even the style on the Bugzilla homepage looks good to me: https://www.bugzilla.org/ https://www.bugzilla.org/

DodgyEggplant 6y ago

Would say that Jira is oriented to the bureaucrats, the people that gain management and control by moving tickets. The means become the goals, everything is chopped to meaningless small tasks and the language dictates the vision and the capabilities. Negative organisational effect. So better to find an alternatives and avoid Jira if you can.

spiderjako22 6y ago
Yes, it highly depends on your needs

fearface 6y ago

Why doesn’t it include Azure Devops?

nxpnsv 6y ago

I knew it was biased just reading the title. Never heard of codegigant before.

spiderjako22 6y ago
Sorry to hear that it made you think it's biased. As someone working at Codegiant, my is to grow my career/business (like many of you do) that's why I decided to put it on the #1 place - it doesn't mean it's the best in any shape or form. And I haven't said anywhere throughout the article that Codegiant or any other listed tool is better than Jira.
- nxpnsv 6y ago
  Just don’t call it unbiased & it wouldn’t ring weird. Also listing codegiant first is obvious bias. Useful reading would be comparing your tool to other tools, I’d know where you argue from, and it’d help me figure out your products strength. The way it stands it feels like poorly masked marketing. Possibly that’s not what your going for, but that was my experience.
  - spiderjako22 6y ago
    Got it. Thanks for sharing your insights. Yea, my main intentions were to compare Jira to other tools, as you can probably tell by the headline. Regarding my tool and all of the rest, I've dedicated a pros & cons to each tool section that can hopefully make the strengths and weaknesses of each software clear. But anyway, thanks for sharing your feedback - will make sure future articles don't look biased even though my initial intentions weren't such.

ratiolat 6y ago

Redmine (redmine.org) seems to be missing from the list

spiderjako22 6y ago
That's true - I'll include it with my next update
smartbit 6y ago
Gitlab issue tracker [0] is missing too. A single kanban board comes with the free edition, more advanced issue features [1] are part of the paid versions. [0] https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/issues/ https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/issues/ [1] https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/self-managed/feature-comparison/ https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/self-managed/feature-compar...

BerislavLopac 6y ago

No ClubHouse? https://clubhouse.io/ https://clubhouse.io/

spiderjako22 6y ago
I'll have to update it for sure, there are still some more alternatives to be added

kevsim 6y ago

My startup is also working on alternative to Jira for anyone interested: https://kitemaker.co https://kitemaker.co It's really fast and tons of hotkeys and keyboard navigation. No need to use the mouse at all if you don't want to.

spiderjako22 6y ago
Hey, I'd be glad to include your tool in the list during my next update.
- kevsim 6y ago
  That’d be great!
gshdg 6y ago
Looks interesting but there’s zero info on your site (at least in mobile) about its features. It looks a lot like Trello from the screenshots. How does it differ?
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
- kevsim 6y ago
  Yeah, our landing page admittedly needs some love. Actually top of our list right now. And the board does look like Trello but so do most boards (we also have a list view of the issues if you prefer that but it's new so no screenshot on the site just yet). In terms of differentiating features from Trello: - we have more structure. We have themes (like Jira epics) and a roadmap view for giving a big picture overview of what's going on. Also software development specific features like effort and impact estimation (small, medium and large aka t-shirt sizes) - the aforementioned hotkeys and key nav. We love using Superhuman for email and we put a lot of love into making the product keyboard friendly - our issues are richer than Trello cards. Our document editor feels a lot like Notion documents. We also have threaded comments - our integrations are getting better all the time. You can mention issues from GitHub and see the commit messages in Kitemaker, you can set up automation rules to automatically move issues in the board. You can embed Figma designs and we're about to launch a Slack integration. And more integrations in the pipeline It's still a young product, but we're adding features every week and onboarding more and more teams. If people are using Trello or GitHub issues, they can use our importer and try it out quickly with their own data. We'd love to hear any feedback you might have.

gtt 6y ago

What about self-hosted jira alternatives?

johnx123-up 6y ago
I've replied in another thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23584712 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23584712