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Anything without a paywall?

by wmichelin 6y ago

eindiran 6y ago
For the NYT, disabling JavaScript with eg the NoScript extension is sufficient to read the article without the paywall.
arprocter 6y ago
Sadly it appears that they fixed the .com. thing
ethanwillis 6y ago
I don't get why this comment is being downvoted. This definitely contributes to the discussion. If the entire or a majority of the front page is paywalled articles than those of us who can't afford, don't want to support a specific publication, etc. can't meaningfully contribute to the discussion. I think this is a BAD thing for the health of the comment section. An even worse outcome is people commenting based on the headline and maybe a blurb only. How is that supposed to promote a good community? If you want paywalled articles being the bulk of the posts on hacker news that garner discussions then we might as well just go ahead and paywall this site.. because it's slowly becoming a paywalled tech discussion site.. just with more steps.
- leetcrew 6y ago
  there are simple ways of circumventing paywalls for most of the commonly linked sites. NYT for example can be bypassed just by using reader mode in Firefox. for the others, this extension is a good start: https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome/blob/master/README.md https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome/blob/ma... it is mildly annoying to see the same complaint over and over when the solution involves only a minimal amount of research.
  - ethanwillis 6y ago
    This is a short term solution to a long term problem. The point is not workarounds or bypasses.
- o-__-o 6y ago
  So would I be wrong to post a link to a full movie when link requests you pay for it? Piracy is piracy
  - aaomidi 6y ago
    Except in this case you can link to another news site for the same story.
  - ethanwillis 6y ago
    Piracy is a result of a bad business model.
    - evgen 6y ago
      Piracy is the result of you wanting something and not wanting to pay anything towards its creation and the upkeep of the creators. Piracy is the collective result of personal greed. Don't try to hide it, and don't try to tart it up in some BS about bad business models.
      - ethanwillis 6y ago
        That's not even remotely true across the board. I won't bother digging into all of the details of bad publishing business models in academia, but that is a direct counterpoint to the blanket statement you're trying to make. With staying on topic re: The costs to the end consumers. It's not personal greed to not want to pay to access the content when the cost of the content doesn't reflect the cost to produce it or even a "fair premium" on top of what it costs to produce it. You're also discounting the business models themselves and how they work. Let's say I care to read this one specific article from NYT. Why do I have to pay to access all of their content? If they want more money they'd allow me to do a microtransaction to purchase this article. And no, not 20-30% of what a month long subscription costs. It is in fact a bad business model. In either case, I don't pirate these articles and I'm even arguing against using workarounds to view them without paying. So don't try to paint me as some comically evil person who just "doesn't want to pay" because my argument is inconvenient to your world view.
- waltpad 6y ago
  > I don't get why this comment is being downvoted. It probably tells that you also hit the paywall. Those who downvoted probably didn't, perhaps because their setup doesn't trigger it by default, or because they searched by themselves how to avoid it. I personally didn't see any paywall when accessing the site directly (ie, without a VPN).
- keith___talent 6y ago
  If you’re U.S. based you may have free access to the NYT and other paywall ed news sources through your library. Usually they call it e-media and you can access news sources and magazines from across the nation and around the world. Hopefully your city library has e-resources you can take advantage of and participate more fully in the conversation.
TechBro8615 6y ago
https://beta.trimread.com/articles/21954 https://beta.trimread.com/articles/21954 For browser extension, see: https://github.com/iamadamdev https://github.com/iamadamdev
- TheMblabla 6y ago
  TrimRead seems like an awesome idea! There are so many times I couldn't read an article sent to me/participate in a discussion because of a paywall.

Anything without a paywall?

eindiran 6y ago

For the NYT, disabling JavaScript with eg the NoScript extension is sufficient to read the article without the paywall.

arprocter 6y ago

Sadly it appears that they fixed the .com. thing

ethanwillis 6y ago

I don't get why this comment is being downvoted. This definitely contributes to the discussion. If the entire or a majority of the front page is paywalled articles than those of us who can't afford, don't want to support a specific publication, etc. can't meaningfully contribute to the discussion. I think this is a BAD thing for the health of the comment section. An even worse outcome is people commenting based on the headline and maybe a blurb only. How is that supposed to promote a good community? If you want paywalled articles being the bulk of the posts on hacker news that garner discussions then we might as well just go ahead and paywall this site.. because it's slowly becoming a paywalled tech discussion site.. just with more steps.

leetcrew 6y ago
there are simple ways of circumventing paywalls for most of the commonly linked sites. NYT for example can be bypassed just by using reader mode in Firefox. for the others, this extension is a good start: https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome/blob/master/README.md https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome/blob/ma... it is mildly annoying to see the same complaint over and over when the solution involves only a minimal amount of research.
- ethanwillis 6y ago
  This is a short term solution to a long term problem. The point is not workarounds or bypasses.
o-__-o 6y ago
So would I be wrong to post a link to a full movie when link requests you pay for it? Piracy is piracy
- aaomidi 6y ago
  Except in this case you can link to another news site for the same story.
- ethanwillis 6y ago
  Piracy is a result of a bad business model.
  - evgen 6y ago
    Piracy is the result of you wanting something and not wanting to pay anything towards its creation and the upkeep of the creators. Piracy is the collective result of personal greed. Don't try to hide it, and don't try to tart it up in some BS about bad business models.
    - ethanwillis 6y ago
      That's not even remotely true across the board. I won't bother digging into all of the details of bad publishing business models in academia, but that is a direct counterpoint to the blanket statement you're trying to make. With staying on topic re: The costs to the end consumers. It's not personal greed to not want to pay to access the content when the cost of the content doesn't reflect the cost to produce it or even a "fair premium" on top of what it costs to produce it. You're also discounting the business models themselves and how they work. Let's say I care to read this one specific article from NYT. Why do I have to pay to access all of their content? If they want more money they'd allow me to do a microtransaction to purchase this article. And no, not 20-30% of what a month long subscription costs. It is in fact a bad business model. In either case, I don't pirate these articles and I'm even arguing against using workarounds to view them without paying. So don't try to paint me as some comically evil person who just "doesn't want to pay" because my argument is inconvenient to your world view.
waltpad 6y ago
> I don't get why this comment is being downvoted. It probably tells that you also hit the paywall. Those who downvoted probably didn't, perhaps because their setup doesn't trigger it by default, or because they searched by themselves how to avoid it. I personally didn't see any paywall when accessing the site directly (ie, without a VPN).
keith___talent 6y ago
If you’re U.S. based you may have free access to the NYT and other paywall ed news sources through your library. Usually they call it e-media and you can access news sources and magazines from across the nation and around the world. Hopefully your city library has e-resources you can take advantage of and participate more fully in the conversation.

TechBro8615 6y ago

https://beta.trimread.com/articles/21954 https://beta.trimread.com/articles/21954 For browser extension, see: https://github.com/iamadamdev https://github.com/iamadamdev

TheMblabla 6y ago
TrimRead seems like an awesome idea! There are so many times I couldn't read an article sent to me/participate in a discussion because of a paywall.