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Lots of things can kill a business. Anti-competitive practices are made for the goal of reducing competition. But the reality is Apple's App Store provides a t

Lots of things can kill a business. Anti-competitive practices are made for the goal of reducing competition. But the reality is Apple's App Store provides a ton of value to many developers and end users alike. Just because your business model failed doesn't mean the system is broken or monopolistic.

jonny_eh 6y ago
> But the reality is Apple's App Store provides a ton of value to many developers and end users alike. No one's advocating ending the App Store. Just changing the rules to allow for more competition.
- ntsplnkv2 6y ago
  Changing the rules hurts all developers who already abide by them. There's no problem with the rules. people are just entitled and think the only reason their adtech shovelware is failing is because of Apple, who is an easy target. A big baddie.
  - jonny_eh 6y ago
    > Changing the rules hurts all developers who already abide by them. I don't follow the logic here. > people are just entitled and think the only reason their adtech shovelware is failing is because of Apple If Hey was funded by shovelware ads it would have been approved by Apple. Instead it's funded by a $99 subscription, which the developer refused to give $32 of to Apple, so it was rejected.
    - ntsplnkv2 6y ago
      > I don't follow the logic here. Developers who followed the guidelines and accepted the terms will lose if the terms are changed to benefit those who aren't in it. Apps have paid the 30% fee for years - now everyone gets a free pass? Very unfair. > If Hey was funded by shovelware ads it would have been approved by Apple. Instead it's funded by a $99 subscription, which the developer refused to give $32 of to Apple, so it was rejected. If you want to be listed on Amazon, you sell, you pay a fee. This is true of any storefront. You don't want to pay fees you can use CraigsList, and Hey can do some SEO and market in other ways. It's unfair that Hey tries to work around the system that other apps have had to go through. The entitlement is absolutely insane.
      - heavyset_go 6y ago
        > Developers who followed the guidelines and accepted the terms will lose if the terms are changed to benefit those who aren't in it. Apps have paid the 30% fee for years - now everyone gets a free pass? Very unfair. Following this logic, cures for cancer are "very unfair", as countless people died before a cure was invented. Not very fair to all of those people that fought cancer on their own or died.
      - jonny_eh 6y ago
        > If you want to be listed on Amazon, you sell, you pay a fee > You don't want to pay fees you can use CraigsList That's great, Amazon's not the only option. On the iPhone, Apple's the only one allowed to sell apps, that sucks for consumers.

jonny_eh 6y ago

> But the reality is Apple's App Store provides a ton of value to many developers and end users alike. No one's advocating ending the App Store. Just changing the rules to allow for more competition.

ntsplnkv2 6y ago
Changing the rules hurts all developers who already abide by them. There's no problem with the rules. people are just entitled and think the only reason their adtech shovelware is failing is because of Apple, who is an easy target. A big baddie.
- jonny_eh 6y ago
  > Changing the rules hurts all developers who already abide by them. I don't follow the logic here. > people are just entitled and think the only reason their adtech shovelware is failing is because of Apple If Hey was funded by shovelware ads it would have been approved by Apple. Instead it's funded by a $99 subscription, which the developer refused to give $32 of to Apple, so it was rejected.
  - ntsplnkv2 6y ago
    > I don't follow the logic here. Developers who followed the guidelines and accepted the terms will lose if the terms are changed to benefit those who aren't in it. Apps have paid the 30% fee for years - now everyone gets a free pass? Very unfair. > If Hey was funded by shovelware ads it would have been approved by Apple. Instead it's funded by a $99 subscription, which the developer refused to give $32 of to Apple, so it was rejected. If you want to be listed on Amazon, you sell, you pay a fee. This is true of any storefront. You don't want to pay fees you can use CraigsList, and Hey can do some SEO and market in other ways. It's unfair that Hey tries to work around the system that other apps have had to go through. The entitlement is absolutely insane.
    - heavyset_go 6y ago
      > Developers who followed the guidelines and accepted the terms will lose if the terms are changed to benefit those who aren't in it. Apps have paid the 30% fee for years - now everyone gets a free pass? Very unfair. Following this logic, cures for cancer are "very unfair", as countless people died before a cure was invented. Not very fair to all of those people that fought cancer on their own or died.
    - jonny_eh 6y ago
      > If you want to be listed on Amazon, you sell, you pay a fee > You don't want to pay fees you can use CraigsList That's great, Amazon's not the only option. On the iPhone, Apple's the only one allowed to sell apps, that sucks for consumers.