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Katie Hopkins permanently suspended from Twitter

16 points by spzb 6y ago

spzb 6y ago
Context for non-UK readers: Hopkins is a former reality TV (UK version of The Apprentice) star turned right-wing commentator who has previously been retweeted by Donald Trump
anonymousiam 6y ago
Some might consider banning somebody else's speech a "hateful" act.
- poooogles 6y ago
  We don't have 'free speech' here in the UK. Her comments have instigated hate crimes [1]. This isn't a hateful act; she's an awful person that doesn't need amplifying. 1. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/muslim-man-attacked-thugs-who-13237258 https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manches...
  - anonymousiam 6y ago
    So who are the gatekeepers of what speech is allowed and what speech is not? Must we all now conform to some proclaimed philosophy and not be allowed to even discuss alternatives?
    - user982 6y ago
      "Alternatives": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Hopkins#Views_and_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Hopkins#Views_and_contro...
    - anonymousiam 6y ago
      I guess so...
  - anonymousiam 6y ago
    Anyone in the US who is paying attention knows about the surveillance and censorship in the UK. Twitter is a US company.
- jrobn 6y ago
  Freedom of speech or the “right to say anything you want” is a myth. I’m sure you view would be different if someone started tweeting hateful things towards you that incited others to take potential harmful actions, no? This is the problem with the internet. It is evolving into a platform for disseminating hate and careful crafted malicious fake “realities” and events. Our society and our brains haven’t had time to evolve to it. All good things eventual evolve into bad. Something like that.
  - anonymousiam 6y ago
    Actually no. I'm not so fragile that I cannot bear to hear criticism or even abuse. Our younger generation has seemed to have invented some sort of new "right to not be offended." This is far more dangerous than "hate speech." I'm also quite prepared to defend myself, my family, and my property if necessary.
    - Normille 6y ago
      >Our younger generation has seemed to have invented some sort of new "right to not be offended." I don't necessarily agree with the rest of your comments. But I upvoted you for this.
  - gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
    > I’m sure you view would be different if someone started tweeting hateful things towards you that incited others to take potential harmful actions, no? Yea like BLM(the organization) saying we need to dismantle the nuclear family? I've had tons of experience with people in college (friends no less) that will casually talk like this: joke about guillotines, glorify Robespierre, etc.
    - notkaiho 6y ago
      Source needed on this claim that "BLM(the organization) saying we need to dismantle the nuclear family"
      - 6y ago
mmastrac 6y ago
She's had a history of questionable and inflammatory communications. She was sued for libel and lost [1] after accusing someone of damaging a memorial. And she cost the Daily Mail a pretty sum [2] after accusing a family of being extremists. [1] https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/131000-katie-hopkins-realise-trolling-twitter-expensive-hobby-528109 https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/131000-katie-hopkins-rea... [2] https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/mail-online-pays-out-substantial-damages-to-mahmood-family-over-katie-hopkins-islamic-extremist-claims/ https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/mail-online-pays-out-substant...
panpanna 6y ago
Wait, isn't this the fake crosspoint lady? Isn't there a meme about her aging faster due to all the hate she carries?

16 points by spzb 6y ago

spzb 6y ago

Context for non-UK readers: Hopkins is a former reality TV (UK version of The Apprentice) star turned right-wing commentator who has previously been retweeted by Donald Trump

anonymousiam 6y ago

Some might consider banning somebody else's speech a "hateful" act.

poooogles 6y ago
We don't have 'free speech' here in the UK. Her comments have instigated hate crimes [1]. This isn't a hateful act; she's an awful person that doesn't need amplifying. 1. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/muslim-man-attacked-thugs-who-13237258 https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manches...
- anonymousiam 6y ago
  So who are the gatekeepers of what speech is allowed and what speech is not? Must we all now conform to some proclaimed philosophy and not be allowed to even discuss alternatives?
  - user982 6y ago
    "Alternatives": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Hopkins#Views_and_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Hopkins#Views_and_contro...
  - anonymousiam 6y ago
    I guess so...
- anonymousiam 6y ago
  Anyone in the US who is paying attention knows about the surveillance and censorship in the UK. Twitter is a US company.
jrobn 6y ago
Freedom of speech or the “right to say anything you want” is a myth. I’m sure you view would be different if someone started tweeting hateful things towards you that incited others to take potential harmful actions, no? This is the problem with the internet. It is evolving into a platform for disseminating hate and careful crafted malicious fake “realities” and events. Our society and our brains haven’t had time to evolve to it. All good things eventual evolve into bad. Something like that.
- anonymousiam 6y ago
  Actually no. I'm not so fragile that I cannot bear to hear criticism or even abuse. Our younger generation has seemed to have invented some sort of new "right to not be offended." This is far more dangerous than "hate speech." I'm also quite prepared to defend myself, my family, and my property if necessary.
  - Normille 6y ago
    >Our younger generation has seemed to have invented some sort of new "right to not be offended." I don't necessarily agree with the rest of your comments. But I upvoted you for this.
- gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
  > I’m sure you view would be different if someone started tweeting hateful things towards you that incited others to take potential harmful actions, no? Yea like BLM(the organization) saying we need to dismantle the nuclear family? I've had tons of experience with people in college (friends no less) that will casually talk like this: joke about guillotines, glorify Robespierre, etc.
  - notkaiho 6y ago
    Source needed on this claim that "BLM(the organization) saying we need to dismantle the nuclear family"
    - 6y ago

mmastrac 6y ago

She's had a history of questionable and inflammatory communications. She was sued for libel and lost [1] after accusing someone of damaging a memorial. And she cost the Daily Mail a pretty sum [2] after accusing a family of being extremists. [1] https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/131000-katie-hopkins-realise-trolling-twitter-expensive-hobby-528109 https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/131000-katie-hopkins-rea... [2] https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/mail-online-pays-out-substantial-damages-to-mahmood-family-over-katie-hopkins-islamic-extremist-claims/ https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/mail-online-pays-out-substant...

panpanna 6y ago

Wait, isn't this the fake crosspoint lady? Isn't there a meme about her aging faster due to all the hate she carries?