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"diversity and inclusion" initiatives are coming up on a long overdue reckoning. The premise is to allege discrimination, based solely on "evidence" in the form

"diversity and inclusion" initiatives are coming up on a long overdue reckoning. The premise is to allege discrimination, based solely on "evidence" in the form of inequality of outcome, and then use that unilateral accusation as justification for the accusing party to practice the discrimination they claim to oppose. Bonus: you are liable to lose your job for criticising these practices. The comments ITT suggest that perhaps the taboo surrounding criticism of diversity initiatives is finally lifting, and rightly so.

dang 6y ago
You can't conclude anything from a single thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23555398 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23555398 Would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules on HN? I'm afraid you've been breaking them in two ways. First, it's not ok to use the site primarily [1] for political or ideological battle. That's probably the single most destructive thing people do here, because battle mode and curiosity mode do not go together. Some political overlap is ok [2], but it's not ok to use the site primarily this way. Second, please stop creating accounts for every few comments you post? We ban accounts that do that. You needn't use your real name, of course, but for HN to be a community, users need some identity for other users to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community, and that would be a different kind of forum. [3] [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20primarily%20test&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... [2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20political%20overlap&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... [3] https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix&page=0&query=by:dang%20community%20identity https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
- malandrew 6y ago
  For people to use a consistent identity especially with issues where you get fired for an unorthodox opinion, it's necessary for people to be able to go back and delete comments that could be used to doxx them. This is one of the biggest drawbacks of HN and why I increasingly use throwaway accounts.
  - dang 6y ago
    I can meet you partway on that by agreeing that there are lots of constraints on this problem. But if someone is repeatedly creating accounts on HN just to post on flamewar topics, that's not a high quality use of the site.
dubrocks 6y ago
It’s not lifting, there’s just a higher degree of anonymity here.

dang 6y ago

You can't conclude anything from a single thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23555398 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23555398 Would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules on HN? I'm afraid you've been breaking them in two ways. First, it's not ok to use the site primarily [1] for political or ideological battle. That's probably the single most destructive thing people do here, because battle mode and curiosity mode do not go together. Some political overlap is ok [2], but it's not ok to use the site primarily this way. Second, please stop creating accounts for every few comments you post? We ban accounts that do that. You needn't use your real name, of course, but for HN to be a community, users need some identity for other users to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community, and that would be a different kind of forum. [3] [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20primarily%20test&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... [2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20political%20overlap&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... [3] https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix&page=0&query=by:dang%20community%20identity https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

malandrew 6y ago
For people to use a consistent identity especially with issues where you get fired for an unorthodox opinion, it's necessary for people to be able to go back and delete comments that could be used to doxx them. This is one of the biggest drawbacks of HN and why I increasingly use throwaway accounts.
- dang 6y ago
  I can meet you partway on that by agreeing that there are lots of constraints on this problem. But if someone is repeatedly creating accounts on HN just to post on flamewar topics, that's not a high quality use of the site.

dubrocks 6y ago

It’s not lifting, there’s just a higher degree of anonymity here.