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I used to love Apple products when I was a kid. This is Apple's 1984 commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtvjbmoDx-I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt

I used to love Apple products when I was a kid. This is Apple's 1984 commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtvjbmoDx-I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtvjbmoDx-I They aren't the same company anymore. They started making fun of people that used other products. They started to say you can only use use Apple products this way. They started to say, "you're holding it wrong". They started to just pretend to be user-friendly and stopped actually being user-friendly.

fermienrico 6y ago
> They aren't the same company anymore. They started making fun of people that used other products. They started to say you can only use use Apple products this way. They started to say, "you're holding it wrong". They started to just pretend to be user-friendly and stopped actually being user-friendly. Any examples? I think they're pretty user friendly in many ways. As I said, they are arrogant but I am fine with that. May be you're not, to each their own. I don't like their repairability stance and some of the shit they do to screw the consumer over. But, I can put up with that because they just replace my whole laptop or whatever device. I took the magic keyboard (standalone one) after 3 years and clearly out of warranty, and they just gave me a new one because 1 key was stuck. IMO more positive experiences than negative.
- RandomBacon 6y ago
  I'm a PC ads Can't customize iOS without jailbreaking it Antennagate
  - fermienrico 6y ago
    This is a weak set of arguments, no offense. I am a PC ads was almost 13 years ago. Antennagate? Samsung Galaxy Note 7? Apple also messed up their whole keyboard fiasco, but they did replace my macbook pro chassis free of cost outside of warranty. So did Samsung with their battery fiasco. Jailbreaking is done by literally impossible to see slice of the consumer base. Apple is not going to give up their T2 security and enclave and all the privacy aspects to open up their software to public hacking. This would go against the FBI case with Apple, remember?
    - RandomBacon 6y ago
      > Any examples? I answered your question, I'm sorry they don't meet your standards. Speaking of anecdotes: Apple didn't fix or replace my iPhone that was under warranty. And why are you changing the subject to hacking?
freehunter 6y ago
The 1984 commercial highlights that Apple has always made fun of people who used other products (who do you think is in the audience? Consumers of their competitors products). The 90's slogan "Think Different" was a direct shot across the bow of IBM's slogan "Think". When they say "here's to the crazy ones" they're directly saying their customers are inherently different from the customers of their competitors. That's how Apple has always been.

fermienrico 6y ago

> They aren't the same company anymore. They started making fun of people that used other products. They started to say you can only use use Apple products this way. They started to say, "you're holding it wrong". They started to just pretend to be user-friendly and stopped actually being user-friendly. Any examples? I think they're pretty user friendly in many ways. As I said, they are arrogant but I am fine with that. May be you're not, to each their own. I don't like their repairability stance and some of the shit they do to screw the consumer over. But, I can put up with that because they just replace my whole laptop or whatever device. I took the magic keyboard (standalone one) after 3 years and clearly out of warranty, and they just gave me a new one because 1 key was stuck. IMO more positive experiences than negative.

RandomBacon 6y ago
I'm a PC ads Can't customize iOS without jailbreaking it Antennagate
- fermienrico 6y ago
  This is a weak set of arguments, no offense. I am a PC ads was almost 13 years ago. Antennagate? Samsung Galaxy Note 7? Apple also messed up their whole keyboard fiasco, but they did replace my macbook pro chassis free of cost outside of warranty. So did Samsung with their battery fiasco. Jailbreaking is done by literally impossible to see slice of the consumer base. Apple is not going to give up their T2 security and enclave and all the privacy aspects to open up their software to public hacking. This would go against the FBI case with Apple, remember?
  - RandomBacon 6y ago
    > Any examples? I answered your question, I'm sorry they don't meet your standards. Speaking of anecdotes: Apple didn't fix or replace my iPhone that was under warranty. And why are you changing the subject to hacking?

freehunter 6y ago

The 1984 commercial highlights that Apple has always made fun of people who used other products (who do you think is in the audience? Consumers of their competitors products). The 90's slogan "Think Different" was a direct shot across the bow of IBM's slogan "Think". When they say "here's to the crazy ones" they're directly saying their customers are inherently different from the customers of their competitors. That's how Apple has always been.