I think they're fine products but they just don't work for me. I need full control over my stuff and apple won't give it to me. Of course, given that I don't li

I think they're fine products but they just don't work for me. I need full control over my stuff and apple won't give it to me. Of course, given that I don't like Apple, some of the stuff they do like iMessage and the hurdles to make apps for ios annoys me