4 ms·

I like Apple products too. I listen to multiple podcasts that are pretty much Apple News/commentary. I like their privacy stance, design, etc. Even products I h

I like Apple products too. I listen to multiple podcasts that are pretty much Apple News/commentary. I like their privacy stance, design, etc. Even products I have no use for like the watch and iPad Pros blow my mind with their use cases especially for non-developers. Having a Unix-like terminal with stable and long-lasting hardware helped me as a young developer in college. Hardware has been hit and miss lately but they are slowly making a comeback... with some caveats. I don't "like" Apple the company (neutral to negative depending on the news) because well, it's a company. The 30% forced cut is BS and its main result is worse apps for consumers and a worse experience for devs. I try to not be a fanboy or instinctively defend them. But yeah, in my 10+ years of being in the ecosystem, I am pretty happy.

lern_too_spel 6y ago
Their privacy stance is pure marketing bluff. Any alternative phone you can buy in the US is going to be better for your privacy. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23329646 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23329646
- thephyber 6y ago
  Do you have any evidence that GPS isn't sent by all phones sold in the USA? I would bet this is a requirement for 911 support (likely required by government regulation on the phone service provider) rather than an Apple "violation of privacy". > For safety purposes, however, your iPhone’s location information may be used when you place an emergency call to aid response efforts regardless of whether you enable Location Services.[1] [1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207056 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207056
  - lern_too_spel 6y ago
    iPhone sends your location data to Apple, not just when you dial an emergency number, but every time you use GPS, and there is no way to turn this off. The absurdity of a company marketing a phone that does that (among the other things I listed) as private is astounding. The fact that people fall for this marketing is even more astounding. This Hey example is another one. If you want to sign up for Hey on an iPhone, Apple is saying that you have to let them know that you are subscribing to Hey, and moreover, you have to give your billing details to Apple, which (unless you take some extra steps) means telling Apple who you are and where you live.

lern_too_spel 6y ago

Their privacy stance is pure marketing bluff. Any alternative phone you can buy in the US is going to be better for your privacy. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23329646 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23329646

thephyber 6y ago
Do you have any evidence that GPS isn't sent by all phones sold in the USA? I would bet this is a requirement for 911 support (likely required by government regulation on the phone service provider) rather than an Apple "violation of privacy". > For safety purposes, however, your iPhone’s location information may be used when you place an emergency call to aid response efforts regardless of whether you enable Location Services.[1] [1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207056 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207056
- lern_too_spel 6y ago
  iPhone sends your location data to Apple, not just when you dial an emergency number, but every time you use GPS, and there is no way to turn this off. The absurdity of a company marketing a phone that does that (among the other things I listed) as private is astounding. The fact that people fall for this marketing is even more astounding. This Hey example is another one. If you want to sign up for Hey on an iPhone, Apple is saying that you have to let them know that you are subscribing to Hey, and moreover, you have to give your billing details to Apple, which (unless you take some extra steps) means telling Apple who you are and where you live.