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Wow. I knew that Amazon banned firearm sales (makes me sad), but they have some stupid arbitrary rules. Prohibited: Single point, 3-point, tactical, and quick

Wow. I knew that Amazon banned firearm sales (makes me sad), but they have some stupid arbitrary rules. Prohibited: Single point, 3-point, tactical, and quick detach slings Why? seems like slings can be used for many things. Permitted: Fixed stocks, with the exception of thumbhole stocks Prohibited: Any non-fixed stock, including telescoping, folding or collapsible stocks Someone please tell me why non-fixed stock are so horrible? Permitted: Magazine floor plates/base plates I'm actually surprised by this one. Prohibited: Full auto sears (also known as drop-in auto sear or DIAS) Haha. Amazon would be the least of your problems if you sell one of these. They should also probably stop selling metal coat hangers.[1] Prohibited: AR-15/M16 armorer’s wrenches or combo wrenches Really? So I cannot by a castle wrench if it's marketed as for AR-15s? Prohibited: Magazine loaders, except for those that can accommodate the following calibers: .223/5.56; 7.62x51; 308; 7.62x39; 5.45x39 Okay but .300 AAC, 6.5, 30-06, .338, .50 BMG/Beowulf are fine. So much irrational hate for the AR-15 platform. It should be right up HNs alley as it is a fully customizable and reparable platform unencumbered by patents. [1] https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/01/04/coat-hanger-machine-gun-dias-drop-in-auto-sear https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/01/04/coat-hanger-m...

chaostheory 6y ago
Maybe they're following certain state laws regarding online gun accessory sales? By certain states I mean NY, CA, and naturally WA.
- agensaequivocum 6y ago
  There are many items that are permitted but subject to geographic restrictions such as airsoft guns.[1] Aside from actual serialized firearms, ammunition, magazines, and some triggers in some state, pretty much every state has no restrictions on firearm accessories such as stocks, grips, slings, sights, and even barrels. [1] https://sellercentral.amazon.com/gp/help/external/help.html?itemID=200164950&language=en-US&ref=efph_200164950_cont_200164330 https://sellercentral.amazon.com/gp/help/external/help.html?...
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anon_cow1111 6y ago
I haven't checked, but I wonder what their policy is on "inline fuel/oil filters" and "solvent traps".
- agensaequivocum 6y ago
  According to this article https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/maryland-man-arrested-fuel-filter-silencer/ https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/maryland-man-arrested-fuel-fi... they have been sold on Amazon before. If they are considered a silencer by the ATF then it would fall under Amazon prohibition on selling silencers.
6AA4FD 6y ago
I don't know why you're worried about sears because either they are unregistered and illegal or registered and covered under the firearm sale ban. Adjustable stocks are arguably a concern because they make building rifles shorter than 26 inches easier. I'm not going to comment on anything else and I'm not pushing any specific agenda with this post, but those were my initial thoughts about those items.
- agensaequivocum 6y ago
  > I don't know why you're worried about sears because either they are unregistered and illegal or registered and covered under the firearm sale ban. Exactly. > Adjustable stocks are arguably a concern because they make building rifles shorter than 26 inches easier. You could just not put stock on. An AR-15 with a 16in barrel is 30in with the stock collapsed and cannot be much shorter without the stock because of the buffer tube.
  - 6AA4FD 6y ago
    >An AR-15 with a 16in barrel is 30in with the stock collapsed and cannot be much shorter without the stock because of the buffer tube. Telescoping stocks maybe not (my inexperience showing there) but folding stocks definitely can take it under 30 inches then. I assume you're saying a normal caliber ar15 won't be very fireable without a buffer tube. Anyways, apparently folding and telescoping stocks are also illegal in California, which might be the real reason amazon has these rules.
    - agensaequivocum 6y ago
      While there are technically stocks you can get for an AR-15 that fold, because you have to also fold the buffer tube they are not recommend and potentially unreliable. It is completely inoperable without the buffer tube. They are not illegal to own in California. They are only illegal to be on a semi-automatic center fire rifle with a detachable magazine. So if you mag lock your AR with something like this[1] you can put a telescoping stock on it. This is also legal[2] (with a 10rd magazine) since it is not a center fire rifle. Again a stock is not integral to the operation of most rifles so you can just not put one on. Oh course then it's legally not considered a rifle most of the time. [1] https://armaglock.com/product/armaglock/ https://armaglock.com/product/armaglock/ [2] https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/mp-15-22-sport https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/mp-15-22-sport
cloakandswagger 6y ago
> Prohibited: Single point, 3-point, tactical, and quick detach slings Funny, I just received a VTAC sling from Amazon. I wonder if I was able to buy it due to the "enforcement failures" mentioned in the article or if it's because it is a 2-point sling (obviously much safer than a single point or 3-point sling which are basically weapons of mass destruction).

chaostheory 6y ago

Maybe they're following certain state laws regarding online gun accessory sales? By certain states I mean NY, CA, and naturally WA.

agensaequivocum 6y ago
There are many items that are permitted but subject to geographic restrictions such as airsoft guns.[1] Aside from actual serialized firearms, ammunition, magazines, and some triggers in some state, pretty much every state has no restrictions on firearm accessories such as stocks, grips, slings, sights, and even barrels. [1] https://sellercentral.amazon.com/gp/help/external/help.html?itemID=200164950&language=en-US&ref=efph_200164950_cont_200164330 https://sellercentral.amazon.com/gp/help/external/help.html?...
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anon_cow1111 6y ago

I haven't checked, but I wonder what their policy is on "inline fuel/oil filters" and "solvent traps".

agensaequivocum 6y ago
According to this article https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/maryland-man-arrested-fuel-filter-silencer/ https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/maryland-man-arrested-fuel-fi... they have been sold on Amazon before. If they are considered a silencer by the ATF then it would fall under Amazon prohibition on selling silencers.

6AA4FD 6y ago

I don't know why you're worried about sears because either they are unregistered and illegal or registered and covered under the firearm sale ban. Adjustable stocks are arguably a concern because they make building rifles shorter than 26 inches easier. I'm not going to comment on anything else and I'm not pushing any specific agenda with this post, but those were my initial thoughts about those items.

agensaequivocum 6y ago
> I don't know why you're worried about sears because either they are unregistered and illegal or registered and covered under the firearm sale ban. Exactly. > Adjustable stocks are arguably a concern because they make building rifles shorter than 26 inches easier. You could just not put stock on. An AR-15 with a 16in barrel is 30in with the stock collapsed and cannot be much shorter without the stock because of the buffer tube.
- 6AA4FD 6y ago
  >An AR-15 with a 16in barrel is 30in with the stock collapsed and cannot be much shorter without the stock because of the buffer tube. Telescoping stocks maybe not (my inexperience showing there) but folding stocks definitely can take it under 30 inches then. I assume you're saying a normal caliber ar15 won't be very fireable without a buffer tube. Anyways, apparently folding and telescoping stocks are also illegal in California, which might be the real reason amazon has these rules.
  - agensaequivocum 6y ago
    While there are technically stocks you can get for an AR-15 that fold, because you have to also fold the buffer tube they are not recommend and potentially unreliable. It is completely inoperable without the buffer tube. They are not illegal to own in California. They are only illegal to be on a semi-automatic center fire rifle with a detachable magazine. So if you mag lock your AR with something like this[1] you can put a telescoping stock on it. This is also legal[2] (with a 10rd magazine) since it is not a center fire rifle. Again a stock is not integral to the operation of most rifles so you can just not put one on. Oh course then it's legally not considered a rifle most of the time. [1] https://armaglock.com/product/armaglock/ https://armaglock.com/product/armaglock/ [2] https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/mp-15-22-sport https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/mp-15-22-sport

cloakandswagger 6y ago

> Prohibited: Single point, 3-point, tactical, and quick detach slings Funny, I just received a VTAC sling from Amazon. I wonder if I was able to buy it due to the "enforcement failures" mentioned in the article or if it's because it is a 2-point sling (obviously much safer than a single point or 3-point sling which are basically weapons of mass destruction).