I always enjoy a good faith discussion, but if you aren't going to respond to what I actually wrote there's no need to continue this. I _know_ the functionality

I always enjoy a good faith discussion, but if you aren't going to respond to what I actually wrote there's no need to continue this. I _know_ the functionality I mentioned can be shipped without a framework. I _have_ shipped web apps without a framework. I've personally found the overhead of designing and enforcing an ad hoc framework to be not worth the effort.