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They could already wipe out people they want to designate as "criminals" by busting into people's houses and shooting them in their sleep. The reason they don't

by _bxg1 6y ago

They could already wipe out people they want to designate as "criminals" by busting into people's houses and shooting them in their sleep. The reason they don't (very often) is that, as we've seen in recent weeks, that's how you get riots. The current unrest resulted from only a handful of unjustified killings. Imagine what would happen if they started sending drones to kill people en masse?

searchableguy 6y ago
That's a very US centric view. It doesn't apply to many other countries. The point is still that it will be cheaper to manufacture large number of autonomous justice drones than to hire policemen to do the dirty work. Why pay for their pension years after they have retired? Why pay for their healthcare, training, damage, etc?
- _bxg1 6y ago
  You really think lack of money for hiring thugs with guns to shoot helpless citizens is the limiting factor for any ill-willed nation-state? Even the most insidious state relies on its citizenry to some extent. You're not ruling anything if your people are constantly in revolt, or if they're all dead.
  - searchableguy 6y ago
    > You really think lack of money for hiring thugs with guns to shoot helpless citizens is the limiting factor for insidious nation-state? Yes, there is a money problem for employing enough cops. Reference - India. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_number_of_police_officers https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_depend...
    - _bxg1 6y ago
      And you really don't think those inhabitants would riot and swiftly overwhelm whatever enforcement existed if their friends and neighbors started getting picked off by assassination drones? If anything it sounds like India's enforcement should be more scared of the populace than they are in the U.S. because of how outnumbered they are.
      - searchableguy 6y ago
        Playing the devil's advocate since you think cops are thugs with guns who can't work without making a mess, why don't you believe in replacing them with autonomous drones? In an ideal future, autonomous drones would make less mistakes since they don't feel threatened or care about dying. They won't kill someone just because it looked threatening. They won't turn off the body cam because of reasons. They will have a more accurate aim and will be more trained since training doesn't cost anything for them. You can invest the other funds in improving rehabilitation or de-escalation services.
- sudosysgen 6y ago
  Nah, it's the same in most countries. If you kill enough innocents you create more people to kill and eventually you get riots.

by _bxg1 6y ago

searchableguy 6y ago

That's a very US centric view. It doesn't apply to many other countries. The point is still that it will be cheaper to manufacture large number of autonomous justice drones than to hire policemen to do the dirty work. Why pay for their pension years after they have retired? Why pay for their healthcare, training, damage, etc?

_bxg1 6y ago
You really think lack of money for hiring thugs with guns to shoot helpless citizens is the limiting factor for any ill-willed nation-state? Even the most insidious state relies on its citizenry to some extent. You're not ruling anything if your people are constantly in revolt, or if they're all dead.
- searchableguy 6y ago
  > You really think lack of money for hiring thugs with guns to shoot helpless citizens is the limiting factor for insidious nation-state? Yes, there is a money problem for employing enough cops. Reference - India. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_number_of_police_officers https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_depend...
  - _bxg1 6y ago
    And you really don't think those inhabitants would riot and swiftly overwhelm whatever enforcement existed if their friends and neighbors started getting picked off by assassination drones? If anything it sounds like India's enforcement should be more scared of the populace than they are in the U.S. because of how outnumbered they are.
    - searchableguy 6y ago
      Playing the devil's advocate since you think cops are thugs with guns who can't work without making a mess, why don't you believe in replacing them with autonomous drones? In an ideal future, autonomous drones would make less mistakes since they don't feel threatened or care about dying. They won't kill someone just because it looked threatening. They won't turn off the body cam because of reasons. They will have a more accurate aim and will be more trained since training doesn't cost anything for them. You can invest the other funds in improving rehabilitation or de-escalation services.
sudosysgen 6y ago
Nah, it's the same in most countries. If you kill enough innocents you create more people to kill and eventually you get riots.