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We’re believing the victims of forced relocation and genocide at the hands of China. I’m open to your sources, since you’re so convinced of your side being the

We’re believing the victims of forced relocation and genocide at the hands of China. I’m open to your sources, since you’re so convinced of your side being the one deserving of trust.

luckylion 6y ago
> I’m open to your sources, since you’re so convinced of your side being the one deserving of trust. This is cheap. To say "we shouldn't blindly trust this side" doesn't mean "we should blindly trust that side" at all. It just means we shouldn't blindly trust this side. It may well be that we shouldn't trust either side, because both have reasons to lie.
- aspenmayer 6y ago
  Both sides could also be right. I do not have a stance, I am just saying what the Tibetan stance is. Why shouldn’t we believe that narrative? There could be good reasons either way, but I haven’t really seen any good sources in this thread. Perhaps you have some to share? I admit this is not my area of study.
  - luckylion 6y ago
    > Both sides could also be right. When both sides claim opposing things, that's pretty unlikely. My point is that to jump from "don't just blindly trust A" to claiming the person meant to say "blindly trust B" is a cheap shot. It's "so you're saying [insert something they absolutely didn't say]" and it's a meme mocking the person that does it for a reason.
dang 6y ago
Please do not use HN for nationalistic flamewar. This comment is a noticeable step into the flamewar style, which is exactly the wrong direction take here, regardless of how right you are or feel on an important topic. Stepping into snark is also a very bad sign. If you find yourself typing things like "since you're so convinced" into comment boxes, please step away from HN until it subsides. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- aspenmayer 6y ago
  I would ask you to read my partner’s comments again. They are self-replying and mixing up comment replies between different comment chains. Their comments are not germane to the discussion. It feels like the entire thread is being trolled. I don’t feel bad for trying to debate in good faith.
  - dang 6y ago
    I posted moderation replies to the other user also. It takes two to keep these things going.

We’re believing the victims of forced relocation and genocide at the hands of China. I’m open to your sources, since you’re so convinced of your side being the one deserving of trust.

luckylion 6y ago

> I’m open to your sources, since you’re so convinced of your side being the one deserving of trust. This is cheap. To say "we shouldn't blindly trust this side" doesn't mean "we should blindly trust that side" at all. It just means we shouldn't blindly trust this side. It may well be that we shouldn't trust either side, because both have reasons to lie.

aspenmayer 6y ago
Both sides could also be right. I do not have a stance, I am just saying what the Tibetan stance is. Why shouldn’t we believe that narrative? There could be good reasons either way, but I haven’t really seen any good sources in this thread. Perhaps you have some to share? I admit this is not my area of study.
- luckylion 6y ago
  > Both sides could also be right. When both sides claim opposing things, that's pretty unlikely. My point is that to jump from "don't just blindly trust A" to claiming the person meant to say "blindly trust B" is a cheap shot. It's "so you're saying [insert something they absolutely didn't say]" and it's a meme mocking the person that does it for a reason.

dang 6y ago

Please do not use HN for nationalistic flamewar. This comment is a noticeable step into the flamewar style, which is exactly the wrong direction take here, regardless of how right you are or feel on an important topic. Stepping into snark is also a very bad sign. If you find yourself typing things like "since you're so convinced" into comment boxes, please step away from HN until it subsides. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

aspenmayer 6y ago
I would ask you to read my partner’s comments again. They are self-replying and mixing up comment replies between different comment chains. Their comments are not germane to the discussion. It feels like the entire thread is being trolled. I don’t feel bad for trying to debate in good faith.
- dang 6y ago
  I posted moderation replies to the other user also. It takes two to keep these things going.