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Compared to the mass enslavement of Africans and genocide of indigenous people in the west, this sounds pretty tame. Modern Tibet is certainly flourishing. Per

Compared to the mass enslavement of Africans and genocide of indigenous people in the west, this sounds pretty tame. Modern Tibet is certainly flourishing. Perhaps the people who fled were the ones guilty of crimes mentioned in the article?

josinalvo 6y ago
> Perhaps the people who fled were the ones guilty of crimes mentioned in the article? Yup. Lets trust the red terror system of justice (do note: I have a quote from Russia, so, there is an important caveat there. Still...) Martin Latsis, chief of the Ukrainian Cheka, stated in the newspaper Red Terror: We are not fighting against single individuals. We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class. Do not look in the file of incriminating evidence to see whether or not the accused rose up against the Soviets with arms or words. Ask him instead to which class he belongs, what is his background, his education, his profession. These are the questions that will determine the fate of the accused. That is the meaning and essence of the Red Terror.
- trasz 6y ago
  The "red terror" certainly used to be the case few decades ago, but todays it's the USA that has the worlds largest percentage of population locked away in prisons and doing forced labor, not China.
  - aspenmayer 6y ago
    Forced labor is a form of slavery; it is yet to be abolished in America, and that is our collective shame as Americans. Is it considered wrong to force prisoners to perform labor in China?
  - trasz 6y ago
    I'm not sure, I _think_ it's still a thing in China. But since the percentage of incarcerated population is lower, it affects fewer people.
- dang 6y ago
  Please don't take HN threads further into ideological flamewar. It's as tedious and repetitive as it is grandiose. Internet comments can't support meaningful discussion about such topics. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
MustrumRidculle 6y ago
Africans were not enslaved by westerners, but by other African ethnicities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa#West_Africa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa#West_Africa
koheripbal 6y ago
I don't know where to begin with comments like this... It's like a teenager wrote it.
dang 6y ago
Please don't take HN threads further into ideological or nationalistic flamewar. Nothing about this leads anywhere good. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

josinalvo 6y ago

> Perhaps the people who fled were the ones guilty of crimes mentioned in the article? Yup. Lets trust the red terror system of justice (do note: I have a quote from Russia, so, there is an important caveat there. Still...) Martin Latsis, chief of the Ukrainian Cheka, stated in the newspaper Red Terror: We are not fighting against single individuals. We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class. Do not look in the file of incriminating evidence to see whether or not the accused rose up against the Soviets with arms or words. Ask him instead to which class he belongs, what is his background, his education, his profession. These are the questions that will determine the fate of the accused. That is the meaning and essence of the Red Terror.

trasz 6y ago
The "red terror" certainly used to be the case few decades ago, but todays it's the USA that has the worlds largest percentage of population locked away in prisons and doing forced labor, not China.
- aspenmayer 6y ago
  Forced labor is a form of slavery; it is yet to be abolished in America, and that is our collective shame as Americans. Is it considered wrong to force prisoners to perform labor in China?
- trasz 6y ago
  I'm not sure, I _think_ it's still a thing in China. But since the percentage of incarcerated population is lower, it affects fewer people.
dang 6y ago
Please don't take HN threads further into ideological flamewar. It's as tedious and repetitive as it is grandiose. Internet comments can't support meaningful discussion about such topics. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

MustrumRidculle 6y ago

Africans were not enslaved by westerners, but by other African ethnicities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa#West_Africa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa#West_Africa

koheripbal 6y ago

I don't know where to begin with comments like this... It's like a teenager wrote it.

dang 6y ago

Please don't take HN threads further into ideological or nationalistic flamewar. Nothing about this leads anywhere good. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html