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I'm actually in real movie studios and around that world every day. I realizes this is a consumer product, not a directorial production. I'm having trouble gra

I'm actually in real movie studios and around that world every day. I realizes this is a consumer product, not a directorial production. I'm having trouble grasping this concept: 'You provide an outline of topics for each clip you need'... are you suggesting your client (average consumer, I guess?) would be well prepared to have an entire editing session in their mind and prevized the whole montage in their head before they hire your service? Because that's a bit..er far fetched. I feel I don't understand it - can you explain it a bit more? My first idea when I heard about consumer oriented MSAAS as you call it, was that you would provide them with guidelines about story structure (however simple it may be - because it can be made formulaic), offer them a slew of templates like digital juice and, on top of that, list them required material to be shot for a given project... and in the end you auto-magically comp and edit it with a sound sheet and they take of their product.

fapi1974 16y ago
You know, I have stayed away from the "MSAAS" tag in any consumer facing concepts because I feel like that will scare away the average user. The right level of complexity to consider is a wedding tribute video. Ten friends of the couple speak on a topic each: when they were young, how they met, why they're good for each other, etc. We then take those clips and put them together with great transitions, overlays, and copy, and what you have is something that is not fully scripted but far more linear and story-like than, say, an Animoto project. We'll be doing these on all kinds of topics, of course - the wedding thing just gives you a sense for the structure.
- Keyframe 16y ago
  Yes, of course. Wedding, anniversaries, birthdays.. There are A LOT of template companies out there (like digital juice), comping/editing for a user is a challenging task (and might be fun to make :)), but IMO if you could provide them with a layout tool for story structure, it would be a killer. Like that imovie thing mentioned. I purposely called it a layout tool, since you need only a basic structure to hold it through, not a full blown script (at least not for initial kickoff). I'm sure you've sen Syd Field's workshops and stuff like that. If you could hook up with some template guys (to cut down costs of making them yourself - both money and time wise), maybe hook up with guys like dramatica to devise a simpler version of structure process, and you do the tech part for comp/editing... you'd have something that nobody currently has, and online... I bet youtube guys would be interested if you lose interest in the business along the road. Of course, you could do all the steps without partnerships, but it would take a long time. Just my 2cs.
- fapi1974 16y ago
  Definitely - baby steps, but there is a TON of simplification/guiding that can be done for users around story.
aantix 16y ago
Not sure if you have played around with the movie trailer functionality in iMovie 2011, but I believe the original poster's vision is similar to this. Essentially iMovie provides an outline of the "production"; it requires you to fill in the actor names and makes suggestions for the different types of shots needed "Add a two second action shot here", "add a 3 second romantic shot here". Even the generic segway text is already in (but editable by the user). The videos that the user chooses are perfectly synched with a pre-chosen orchestra background track. E.g. as the music tempo picks up, one of your action shots are chosen. It really makes for a compelling end production; definitely check it out.
- fapi1974 16y ago
  I've been following the iMovie templates closely! Two things for me are that 1) Few people like using iMovie, and; 2) it isn't social. Those are two of my strongest hooks - this is something that doesn't require learning a tool, and you do it with your friends - it's participatory.
- Keyframe 16y ago
  I haven't played with it myself, but I've seen a video of a presentation of it - and that's something I had in my mind when I wrote that... I thought op was trying to do something similar, but online. A brave task with lots of work, but might be explosive if done right IMO.

fapi1974 16y ago

You know, I have stayed away from the "MSAAS" tag in any consumer facing concepts because I feel like that will scare away the average user. The right level of complexity to consider is a wedding tribute video. Ten friends of the couple speak on a topic each: when they were young, how they met, why they're good for each other, etc. We then take those clips and put them together with great transitions, overlays, and copy, and what you have is something that is not fully scripted but far more linear and story-like than, say, an Animoto project. We'll be doing these on all kinds of topics, of course - the wedding thing just gives you a sense for the structure.

Keyframe 16y ago
Yes, of course. Wedding, anniversaries, birthdays.. There are A LOT of template companies out there (like digital juice), comping/editing for a user is a challenging task (and might be fun to make :)), but IMO if you could provide them with a layout tool for story structure, it would be a killer. Like that imovie thing mentioned. I purposely called it a layout tool, since you need only a basic structure to hold it through, not a full blown script (at least not for initial kickoff). I'm sure you've sen Syd Field's workshops and stuff like that. If you could hook up with some template guys (to cut down costs of making them yourself - both money and time wise), maybe hook up with guys like dramatica to devise a simpler version of structure process, and you do the tech part for comp/editing... you'd have something that nobody currently has, and online... I bet youtube guys would be interested if you lose interest in the business along the road. Of course, you could do all the steps without partnerships, but it would take a long time. Just my 2cs.
fapi1974 16y ago
Definitely - baby steps, but there is a TON of simplification/guiding that can be done for users around story.

aantix 16y ago

Not sure if you have played around with the movie trailer functionality in iMovie 2011, but I believe the original poster's vision is similar to this. Essentially iMovie provides an outline of the "production"; it requires you to fill in the actor names and makes suggestions for the different types of shots needed "Add a two second action shot here", "add a 3 second romantic shot here". Even the generic segway text is already in (but editable by the user). The videos that the user chooses are perfectly synched with a pre-chosen orchestra background track. E.g. as the music tempo picks up, one of your action shots are chosen. It really makes for a compelling end production; definitely check it out.

fapi1974 16y ago
I've been following the iMovie templates closely! Two things for me are that 1) Few people like using iMovie, and; 2) it isn't social. Those are two of my strongest hooks - this is something that doesn't require learning a tool, and you do it with your friends - it's participatory.
Keyframe 16y ago
I haven't played with it myself, but I've seen a video of a presentation of it - and that's something I had in my mind when I wrote that... I thought op was trying to do something similar, but online. A brave task with lots of work, but might be explosive if done right IMO.